1 00:00:05,059 --> 00:00:04,280 and it hits me oh my gosh this is that 2 00:00:06,140 --> 00:00:05,069 triangle 3 00:00:07,249 --> 00:00:06,150 you know there's explanation for 4 00:00:09,620 --> 00:00:07,259 everything that occurred in the 5 00:00:11,959 --> 00:00:09,630 Rendlesham forest incident that involved 6 00:00:15,340 --> 00:00:11,969 aliens at all it was completely silent 7 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:15,350 it comes right over our head it's so 8 00:00:20,420 --> 00:00:18,570 classic he's also really standing in the 9 00:00:21,859 --> 00:00:20,430 clearing he turned over to my father and 10 00:00:27,710 --> 00:00:21,869 held his hand and he looked in his eyes 11 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:27,720 and said we're not alone welcome to 12 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:30,330 podcast UFO for our live show 13 00:00:36,139 --> 00:00:32,730 we're live every Wednesday at 8 p.m. 14 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:36,149 Eastern Standard Time a podcast UFO calm 15 00:00:41,389 --> 00:00:38,489 during the show 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good 44 00:01:55,340 --> 00:01:51,030 sometimes you get excited to do a show 45 00:01:57,109 --> 00:01:55,350 sometimes you know yeah like huh but mm 46 00:01:58,520 --> 00:01:57,119 and a lot of times has nothing to do 47 00:02:01,039 --> 00:01:58,530 with the guests it's just how your mood 48 00:02:02,569 --> 00:02:01,049 is and I'm just in a great mood so yeah 49 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:02,579 sometimes you have low energy I'm 50 00:02:08,300 --> 00:02:05,250 usually pretty excited still even if I 51 00:02:10,190 --> 00:02:08,310 have low energy especially if you have 52 00:02:13,670 --> 00:02:10,200 the right guest first of all they could 53 00:02:15,860 --> 00:02:13,680 perk you up and make you happy or or 54 00:02:18,170 --> 00:02:15,870 you can just like be like okay you could 55 00:02:21,190 --> 00:02:18,180 you ask a few questions and they they 56 00:02:24,920 --> 00:02:21,200 kind of take let them take charge and 57 00:02:26,990 --> 00:02:24,930 give the information yeah which I don't 58 00:02:29,660 --> 00:02:27,000 mind anyway I don't mind either but you 59 00:02:32,089 --> 00:02:29,670 have to say in your toes because you do 60 00:02:33,530 --> 00:02:32,099 yeah you can easily even they can all of 61 00:02:36,649 --> 00:02:33,540 a sudden say you know what I'm talking 62 00:02:38,809 --> 00:02:36,659 about and then you say uh what yeah yeah 63 00:02:41,599 --> 00:02:38,819 oh I'm always in the conversation but 64 00:02:46,159 --> 00:02:41,609 plus you gotta be ready to have the BS 65 00:02:50,929 --> 00:02:46,169 card ready that's true just the drop 66 00:02:55,399 --> 00:02:50,939 button so what's going on for UFO news 67 00:02:57,860 --> 00:02:55,409 yeah oh there's some UFOs out there so 68 00:03:00,530 --> 00:02:57,870 let's see of course 69 00:03:02,209 --> 00:03:00,540 the tablets are still running bs just to 70 00:03:04,190 --> 00:03:02,219 keep everybody up to date on that I 71 00:03:08,089 --> 00:03:04,200 don't think there is one that kind of 72 00:03:10,459 --> 00:03:08,099 made some news though in Bolton a town 73 00:03:12,289 --> 00:03:10,469 of Bolton and actually I'm gonna be 74 00:03:13,490 --> 00:03:12,299 writing that up and in fact let me write 75 00:03:15,170 --> 00:03:13,500 that up and I'll give you more 76 00:03:16,819 --> 00:03:15,180 information on that next week I'll 77 00:03:19,969 --> 00:03:16,829 probably have the story up later today 78 00:03:23,300 --> 00:03:19,979 but alright just people might have heard 79 00:03:25,339 --> 00:03:23,310 of this video and Bolton and I'll 80 00:03:26,809 --> 00:03:25,349 explain it we do have it in our daily 81 00:03:29,210 --> 00:03:26,819 headlines and I'll hopefully have this 82 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:29,220 story up by the end of the day hopefully 83 00:03:34,069 --> 00:03:32,010 by the time your show's over but 84 00:03:37,789 --> 00:03:34,079 essentially these people have their 85 00:03:40,789 --> 00:03:37,799 security camera up and during this short 86 00:03:42,589 --> 00:03:40,799 video they were looking at their 87 00:03:45,860 --> 00:03:42,599 security camera because it's a motion 88 00:03:47,569 --> 00:03:45,870 detector on their cars and they were in 89 00:03:49,670 --> 00:03:47,579 the UK and they were afraid of someone 90 00:03:51,110 --> 00:03:49,680 breaking in or something the camera 91 00:03:53,809 --> 00:03:51,120 comes on for a little while it's only 92 00:03:55,759 --> 00:03:53,819 like 40 seconds or so a lot of people 93 00:03:57,710 --> 00:03:55,769 are like where's the rest of the video 94 00:03:59,990 --> 00:03:57,720 but there is no more video what 95 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:00,000 triggered the camera they're not sure 96 00:04:05,089 --> 00:04:02,970 they say probably their cat but what's 97 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:05,099 interesting is over the rooftops you see 98 00:04:11,330 --> 00:04:09,090 about 20 seconds into the video in 99 00:04:15,649 --> 00:04:11,340 between a couple of the rooftops you 100 00:04:16,879 --> 00:04:15,659 there's a white orb that kind of goes by 101 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:16,889 at first you're kind of like oh maybe 102 00:04:20,870 --> 00:04:19,289 it's just a meteorite but then you see 103 00:04:23,420 --> 00:04:20,880 it come on 104 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:23,430 you know another behind another house 105 00:04:27,170 --> 00:04:26,490 and then it turns and goes in front of 106 00:04:30,950 --> 00:04:27,180 that how 107 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:30,960 and then the video ends so very very 108 00:04:36,469 --> 00:04:34,050 strange or video especially when 109 00:04:38,450 --> 00:04:36,479 something turns you know and yeah I can 110 00:04:42,350 --> 00:04:38,460 explain away a lot of like the straight 111 00:04:45,020 --> 00:04:42,360 line and a movement of lights or or what 112 00:04:47,990 --> 00:04:45,030 may look like an orb but when that turns 113 00:04:55,840 --> 00:04:48,000 that becomes a lot trickier to then you 114 00:04:59,450 --> 00:04:55,850 gotta say WTF this is that is strange eh 115 00:05:03,439 --> 00:04:59,460 that's right see and by the way I don't 116 00:05:08,060 --> 00:05:03,449 say bad word so when I say AF or WTF I 117 00:05:13,310 --> 00:05:08,070 mean what the Frick uh or or that is 118 00:05:15,590 --> 00:05:13,320 crazy AF is as flip ya just I I don't 119 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:15,600 mean the other word I mean flip 120 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:18,330 typically when I refer to app I see just 121 00:05:24,529 --> 00:05:21,210 show people now yeah just just in case 122 00:05:26,930 --> 00:05:24,539 your kids are listening yeah there's a 123 00:05:30,219 --> 00:05:26,940 there's a couple other crazy AF videos 124 00:05:33,170 --> 00:05:30,229 out there though - at least pictures 125 00:05:35,390 --> 00:05:33,180 yeah one of these is in Washington DC 126 00:05:37,490 --> 00:05:35,400 this is a Roger Marsh story he's a 127 00:05:39,110 --> 00:05:37,500 director of MUFON our director of 128 00:05:42,140 --> 00:05:39,120 communication from MUFON who writes for 129 00:05:44,570 --> 00:05:42,150 us MUFON cases and this is a worm like 130 00:05:47,870 --> 00:05:44,580 object that they said person said was 131 00:05:51,110 --> 00:05:47,880 hovering in the sky at about 40 feet it 132 00:05:53,390 --> 00:05:51,120 almost looks like a balloon like a those 133 00:05:56,689 --> 00:05:53,400 long balloons you you make animal shapes 134 00:05:59,629 --> 00:05:56,699 with but it's no real shape you can 135 00:06:03,350 --> 00:05:59,639 distinguish but this was about 11:00 136 00:06:05,060 --> 00:06:03,360 a.m. on October 2nd this person saw this 137 00:06:07,010 --> 00:06:05,070 up in the sky kind of freaked out and 138 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:07,020 said what the heck is that he said he 139 00:06:12,379 --> 00:06:09,930 ran over he took a cup of pictures then 140 00:06:15,050 --> 00:06:12,389 ran over to get a better picture closer 141 00:06:18,439 --> 00:06:15,060 to the object and the object was gone 142 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:18,449 it disappeared he called it a worm like 143 00:06:23,540 --> 00:06:20,849 shape and you can kind of see what it 144 00:06:26,060 --> 00:06:23,550 means somebody kind of being funny said 145 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:26,070 it looks like the symbol for you know 146 00:06:32,029 --> 00:06:29,370 formally known as the symbol that Prince 147 00:06:35,719 --> 00:06:32,039 used for his name for a period of time 148 00:06:38,589 --> 00:06:35,729 but it is a really strange picture of 149 00:06:40,500 --> 00:06:38,599 some object floating you can see a 150 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:40,510 apartment complex 151 00:06:47,570 --> 00:06:44,170 close to the person and it's just past 152 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:47,580 to that so it's not too high in the sky 153 00:06:53,550 --> 00:06:50,410 but yeah this it's pretty weird pretty 154 00:06:56,670 --> 00:06:53,560 weird one yeah yeah I looked at that and 155 00:06:59,910 --> 00:06:56,680 mm-hmm I know it looks uh I think this 156 00:07:04,020 --> 00:06:59,920 is uh last week you did a report on like 157 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:04,030 another biomorphic type shape uh-huh and 158 00:07:08,790 --> 00:07:05,890 that's kind of what this looks like - 159 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:08,800 yeah really strange there was another 160 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:11,530 one in Colorado superior Colorado which 161 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:13,930 is near Boulder this person said he 162 00:07:20,460 --> 00:07:16,930 caught a five metallic like objects on 163 00:07:22,500 --> 00:07:20,470 his photograph he felt that the object 164 00:07:25,250 --> 00:07:22,510 was about thirty thousand feet not sure 165 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:25,260 how this person determined that but 166 00:07:31,170 --> 00:07:28,570 these objects are really weird they kind 167 00:07:34,170 --> 00:07:31,180 of look like something that is 168 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:34,180 reflective to me they they look more 169 00:07:39,300 --> 00:07:36,250 translucent but perhaps it's because 170 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:39,310 they're far away this person felt that 171 00:07:45,030 --> 00:07:43,090 they look like they were metal but this 172 00:07:47,580 --> 00:07:45,040 person said they seem to fluctuate in 173 00:07:49,170 --> 00:07:47,590 bright yes he said potentially from 174 00:07:51,270 --> 00:07:49,180 changing its position with respect to 175 00:07:54,780 --> 00:07:51,280 the Sun which it does seem to be the 176 00:07:57,210 --> 00:07:54,790 bright spots are reflections they said 177 00:07:59,010 --> 00:07:57,220 that this was you know they were able to 178 00:08:03,240 --> 00:07:59,020 use their digital zoom to get the 179 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:03,250 picture they used a Nikon SLR they took 180 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:05,410 the pictures of the objects and then the 181 00:08:10,350 --> 00:08:07,810 objects disappeared they say so did you 182 00:08:12,570 --> 00:08:10,360 see those pictures I did not you know 183 00:08:15,140 --> 00:08:12,580 but this kind of reminds me when I was 184 00:08:18,390 --> 00:08:15,150 helping with your show yesterday 185 00:08:20,790 --> 00:08:18,400 you jokingly said keep your eyes you 186 00:08:22,290 --> 00:08:20,800 know since I was outside oh yeah 187 00:08:26,010 --> 00:08:22,300 look up at the sky and then I said right 188 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:26,020 after we quit recording I said you're 189 00:08:30,110 --> 00:08:27,730 not gonna believe this but I see 190 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:30,120 something in the sky a bright light and 191 00:08:34,950 --> 00:08:32,770 I realized that what it was was a 192 00:08:37,170 --> 00:08:34,960 reflection of the Sun which was going 193 00:08:40,590 --> 00:08:37,180 down off of probably off of an airplane 194 00:08:42,510 --> 00:08:40,600 because it like disappeared also so I'm 195 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:42,520 wondering if the that's kind of you know 196 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:44,170 I'm not saying it is for sure but I'm 197 00:08:48,060 --> 00:08:46,090 wondering if it's possible that's what 198 00:08:50,340 --> 00:08:48,070 they were seeing could be I don't know 199 00:08:53,370 --> 00:08:50,350 what the heck it's just like I said it's 200 00:08:55,260 --> 00:08:53,380 strange AF so really weird when 201 00:08:57,020 --> 00:08:55,270 I'll just throw another one in there if 202 00:09:00,240 --> 00:08:57,030 that's okay yeah 203 00:09:03,090 --> 00:09:00,250 West Virginia Barbara County another 204 00:09:06,510 --> 00:09:03,100 MUFON case for lights in a triangle 205 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:06,520 shape says the witness they posted a 206 00:09:14,790 --> 00:09:12,850 video people on the GaN YouTube looked 207 00:09:18,540 --> 00:09:14,800 at the video and said this is lame 208 00:09:21,420 --> 00:09:18,550 AAF and the reason why is because it 209 00:09:24,030 --> 00:09:21,430 just it's a very poor video and this 210 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:24,040 person says he has a crappy Android that 211 00:09:29,010 --> 00:09:26,410 doesn't take good videos but luckily 212 00:09:31,830 --> 00:09:29,020 this person took pictures and in the 213 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:31,840 story Roger posted he put the pictures 214 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:33,730 in there so the video is not very 215 00:09:36,780 --> 00:09:35,290 impressive at all you would just think 216 00:09:40,350 --> 00:09:36,790 it's Venus or something this guy is 217 00:09:43,140 --> 00:09:40,360 mistaken for something strange he took 218 00:09:46,530 --> 00:09:43,150 this video at 6:18 a.m. when he got up 219 00:09:48,030 --> 00:09:46,540 and was at work him and his co-workers 220 00:09:50,370 --> 00:09:48,040 were on this hill and they were getting 221 00:09:54,060 --> 00:09:50,380 their machinery out not sure what he 222 00:09:57,510 --> 00:09:54,070 does to do their job when he saw it this 223 00:10:01,530 --> 00:09:57,520 was on September 5th it was still dark 224 00:10:02,970 --> 00:10:01,540 out and the pictures are strange so we 225 00:10:05,310 --> 00:10:02,980 took these pictures and zoomed in and 226 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:05,320 he's like what the heck is this and one 227 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:07,090 of the pictures you can see that this is 228 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:09,130 not just one light in the sky you can 229 00:10:14,850 --> 00:10:12,490 clearly see it's four lights three of 230 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:14,860 those lights are in a line and then one 231 00:10:20,490 --> 00:10:17,410 of the lights is below the light on the 232 00:10:24,090 --> 00:10:20,500 left and so it is sort of a triangular 233 00:10:26,010 --> 00:10:24,100 shape so this is weird you know with 234 00:10:27,540 --> 00:10:26,020 just looking at the video alone I can 235 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:27,550 see why the people on YouTube were 236 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:31,210 saying this is stupid but when you look 237 00:10:37,230 --> 00:10:35,290 at the pictures it is really strange so 238 00:10:40,230 --> 00:10:37,240 in another good one some strange stuff 239 00:10:43,260 --> 00:10:40,240 Roger has been getting out of the MUFON 240 00:10:46,560 --> 00:10:43,270 files here yeah yeah I know a lot of 241 00:10:48,570 --> 00:10:46,570 times the videos just do not do any 242 00:10:52,710 --> 00:10:48,580 justice to what right you're seeing no 243 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:52,720 matter what you're videoing on a phone 244 00:10:58,380 --> 00:10:54,250 and that technology is gonna get better 245 00:11:01,800 --> 00:10:58,390 I know so mm-hmm we'll have better 246 00:11:04,860 --> 00:11:01,810 better videos in the future I imagine I 247 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:04,870 should probably yeah if we make it maybe 248 00:11:08,340 --> 00:11:06,730 like holo cameras do you 249 00:11:09,990 --> 00:11:08,350 that would be something in the future 250 00:11:13,139 --> 00:11:10,000 wait a minute did you just say if we 251 00:11:15,930 --> 00:11:13,149 make it if we may get um through the 252 00:11:18,389 --> 00:11:15,940 bottleneck of technology assistance yeah 253 00:11:21,930 --> 00:11:18,399 I mean you know with all the nukes out 254 00:11:25,079 --> 00:11:21,940 there and it's a dangerous world my 255 00:11:28,439 --> 00:11:25,089 friend a dangerous world it is on that 256 00:11:30,900 --> 00:11:28,449 note do you have anything else well I 257 00:11:35,509 --> 00:11:30,910 don't want to leave on a sad note what 258 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:35,519 would be something happy I could say II 259 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:40,170 oh well things I don't want to bring up 260 00:11:47,910 --> 00:11:45,730 politics that's not happy I got an idea 261 00:11:48,990 --> 00:11:47,920 whether it's great out here that's right 262 00:11:51,660 --> 00:11:49,000 it's a really good time of year for 263 00:11:53,759 --> 00:11:51,670 weather out there yeah but let me just 264 00:11:56,250 --> 00:11:53,769 ask you this have you I know February's 265 00:11:59,340 --> 00:11:56,260 a long way off it is but I'm still 266 00:12:01,439 --> 00:11:59,350 excited already for coming out yes did 267 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:01,449 you have have you had any new guests 268 00:12:06,329 --> 00:12:03,490 since the last time you brought up the 269 00:12:08,100 --> 00:12:06,339 guest list I don't know that's a good 270 00:12:11,069 --> 00:12:08,110 question because I can't remember when I 271 00:12:12,900 --> 00:12:11,079 brought up the guest list last I think I 272 00:12:15,090 --> 00:12:12,910 do tell you about John Alexander it's 273 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:15,100 funny there was one person who posted 274 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:18,370 and said Oh your lineup looks awesome 275 00:12:22,079 --> 00:12:20,170 it's incredible I'm so excited but why 276 00:12:25,590 --> 00:12:22,089 the heck are you having John Alexander 277 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:25,600 he's a disinformation agent but what's 278 00:12:28,980 --> 00:12:27,130 interesting and and it's it's 279 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:28,990 frustrating that people say stuff like 280 00:12:36,590 --> 00:12:33,130 that because you know just because 281 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:36,600 someone has a different point of view 282 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:39,730 however and some of your listeners are 283 00:12:44,129 --> 00:12:41,410 gonna be like she's really is well then 284 00:12:45,870 --> 00:12:44,139 prove it tell me what makes you feel 285 00:12:48,689 --> 00:12:45,880 this way except for it's just your 286 00:12:50,699 --> 00:12:48,699 opinion because of what he says I don't 287 00:12:54,329 --> 00:12:50,709 feel that anything he's saying is so 288 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:54,339 extraordinarily outlandish that it's not 289 00:12:58,710 --> 00:12:56,850 outside the realm of possibility 290 00:13:00,000 --> 00:12:58,720 essentially at the Air Force doesn't 291 00:13:02,990 --> 00:13:00,010 know what they're doing and they don't 292 00:13:05,639 --> 00:13:03,000 know what the heck to do about UFOs but 293 00:13:07,079 --> 00:13:05,649 this is what's great is that he actually 294 00:13:09,780 --> 00:13:07,089 for the first time is going to be 295 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:09,790 speaking about his own sighting and so 296 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:12,730 that's pretty cool and what's weird is 297 00:13:16,980 --> 00:13:14,730 he has it says it has to do with like 298 00:13:18,809 --> 00:13:16,990 healings and all of this other weird 299 00:13:19,730 --> 00:13:18,819 stuff so it's going to be kind of cool 300 00:13:22,370 --> 00:13:19,740 but 301 00:13:24,560 --> 00:13:22,380 otherwise I don't think I even have this 302 00:13:26,420 --> 00:13:24,570 person posted yet but we have confirmed 303 00:13:30,889 --> 00:13:26,430 and I need to do that 304 00:13:33,019 --> 00:13:30,899 Erlang strand so he is a professor from 305 00:13:36,139 --> 00:13:33,029 the University of Norway who has been 306 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:36,149 investigating the Pez Dylan lights and 307 00:13:42,079 --> 00:13:38,610 what's great is that you know they've 308 00:13:46,010 --> 00:13:42,089 been looking at it as possibly a plasma 309 00:13:49,970 --> 00:13:46,020 sort of phenomena he says no this isn't 310 00:13:52,850 --> 00:13:49,980 plasma this is much stranger and he 311 00:13:55,070 --> 00:13:52,860 feels it does appear to be intelligently 312 00:13:57,829 --> 00:13:55,080 controlled so he's going to give more 313 00:14:01,250 --> 00:13:57,839 information to that effect really great 314 00:14:03,829 --> 00:14:01,260 guy he was at move on I got to meet him 315 00:14:06,710 --> 00:14:03,839 at the MUFON symposium and we're super 316 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:06,720 excited to have him participating in the 317 00:14:15,170 --> 00:14:12,330 2017 UFO Congress right all right that's 318 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:15,180 great well thanks so much and we'll be 319 00:14:19,370 --> 00:14:17,250 talking to you next week all right talk 320 00:14:20,900 --> 00:14:19,380 to you soon buddy all righty all right 321 00:14:22,639 --> 00:14:20,910 hanging everyone for the quick music 322 00:14:26,090 --> 00:14:22,649 break we'll be right back with Grant 323 00:15:45,600 --> 00:14:26,100 Cameron we'll be right back with Grant 324 00:15:51,670 --> 00:15:48,730 that music is by Carrie Lloyd Whitehouse 325 00:15:53,110 --> 00:15:51,680 probably for some movie that he has 326 00:15:55,270 --> 00:15:53,120 written that for or something but he's 327 00:15:57,130 --> 00:15:55,280 given us all his music to play here and 328 00:15:59,800 --> 00:15:57,140 there and we have a few other people 329 00:16:03,910 --> 00:15:59,810 that are giving us some music coming up 330 00:16:07,390 --> 00:16:03,920 soon now we have grant Cameron on now 331 00:16:08,770 --> 00:16:07,400 welcome to the show grant welcome thank 332 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:08,780 you very much for having me I'm Martin I 333 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:11,450 appreciate it yes I think I didn't look 334 00:16:15,490 --> 00:16:13,370 on my show but I think it's been a few 335 00:16:19,270 --> 00:16:15,500 years I think you were only on for a 336 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:19,280 short stent catching up on something you 337 00:16:22,510 --> 00:16:21,530 were doing I think at the time then 338 00:16:24,970 --> 00:16:22,520 we'll have lots to talk about 339 00:16:27,610 --> 00:16:24,980 yeah that's right and I did get to meet 340 00:16:31,450 --> 00:16:27,620 you last year over in in Maine you would 341 00:16:32,650 --> 00:16:31,460 mean yes and we were in Canada right yes 342 00:16:34,810 --> 00:16:32,660 right in the middle right above North 343 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:34,820 Dakota right yeah it's famous for being 344 00:16:40,660 --> 00:16:36,290 the coldest city in the world there's 345 00:16:42,580 --> 00:16:40,670 actually a spot on Mars where during one 346 00:16:44,260 --> 00:16:42,590 point it was colder here than was on 347 00:16:47,230 --> 00:16:44,270 Mars so apparently there's a spot on 348 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:47,240 Mars that's called Winnipeg oh my 349 00:16:52,030 --> 00:16:49,970 goodness Wow I hadn't I'd no idea that's 350 00:16:54,580 --> 00:16:52,040 where you were oh my god I've heard 351 00:16:58,060 --> 00:16:54,590 about the winters here Wow something 352 00:17:00,340 --> 00:16:58,070 else so grant for the person that has 353 00:17:03,340 --> 00:17:00,350 not heard you I think most people 354 00:17:06,430 --> 00:17:03,350 listening probably know about you I know 355 00:17:09,250 --> 00:17:06,440 you had a sighting back in the 1970s and 356 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:09,260 that changed everything and all that and 357 00:17:13,630 --> 00:17:11,930 just to let the listener know we have 358 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:13,640 some questions that came in that I'd 359 00:17:18,610 --> 00:17:17,090 like to ask you during the first part of 360 00:17:19,990 --> 00:17:18,620 the show and then sure we'll get into 361 00:17:21,550 --> 00:17:20,000 other things that you would like to talk 362 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:21,560 about you sent me a list of a few things 363 00:17:26,830 --> 00:17:24,490 interesting but can you give the 364 00:17:30,010 --> 00:17:26,840 listener that may not have heard you 365 00:17:32,380 --> 00:17:30,020 before kind of a quick nutshell of who 366 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:32,390 you are and what got your interests 367 00:17:39,070 --> 00:17:36,410 perked up in UFOs okay I've been in it 368 00:17:42,250 --> 00:17:39,080 since 1975 I had a whole series of 369 00:17:44,260 --> 00:17:42,260 sightings in 1975 the only reason that I 370 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:44,270 ever got involved in UFOs was there's a 371 00:17:49,210 --> 00:17:46,850 small town called Carmen Manitoba which 372 00:17:52,510 --> 00:17:49,220 is about 25 miles from the North Dakota 373 00:17:55,390 --> 00:17:52,520 border just above where all the 374 00:17:57,730 --> 00:17:55,400 missile silos were and this town was 375 00:18:01,150 --> 00:17:57,740 being inundated from about February till 376 00:18:02,860 --> 00:18:01,160 about November of 1975 and the only 377 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:02,870 reason I went out there was because I 378 00:18:05,260 --> 00:18:03,890 wanted to see what everybody was seeing 379 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:05,270 I had no interest in UFOs I'd never 380 00:18:09,610 --> 00:18:06,850 thought about extraterrestrial life and 381 00:18:11,230 --> 00:18:09,620 I went out there to see whatever he's 382 00:18:12,790 --> 00:18:11,240 looking at thinking I bought the lottery 383 00:18:15,010 --> 00:18:12,800 ticket there's a chance you can win but 384 00:18:15,910 --> 00:18:15,020 you're not going to win and I could not 385 00:18:17,620 --> 00:18:15,920 believe it this thing flew right in 386 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:17,630 front of the car down low pretty close 387 00:18:23,290 --> 00:18:19,250 to the car it was not a light in the sky 388 00:18:26,380 --> 00:18:23,300 it was an object and it changed my life 389 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:26,390 I started to gather all the sightings 390 00:18:30,430 --> 00:18:28,250 after the second night I went back two 391 00:18:31,930 --> 00:18:30,440 nights later had a an encounter with 392 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:31,940 this thing came right at us the second 393 00:18:36,130 --> 00:18:33,530 night and it was in fairly close again 394 00:18:38,470 --> 00:18:36,140 and at that point I decided that this 395 00:18:40,420 --> 00:18:38,480 was pretty bizarre that why is somebody 396 00:18:42,580 --> 00:18:40,430 not talking to the people in the town 397 00:18:43,750 --> 00:18:42,590 because the rumored was and it was true 398 00:18:45,340 --> 00:18:43,760 that half the people in the town had 399 00:18:45,730 --> 00:18:45,350 seen this thing over this one-year 400 00:18:47,710 --> 00:18:45,740 period 401 00:18:52,300 --> 00:18:47,720 and gathered all that material together 402 00:18:53,620 --> 00:18:52,310 tried to get it published and the local 403 00:18:54,820 --> 00:18:53,630 publisher who should have published it 404 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:54,830 because there's a famous story around 405 00:18:58,570 --> 00:18:57,050 here said Mr Cameron you may believe in 406 00:19:00,700 --> 00:18:58,580 this kind of stuff count me among men 407 00:19:02,470 --> 00:19:00,710 believers and at that point I said this 408 00:19:04,150 --> 00:19:02,480 is a total waste of time and I 409 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:04,160 completely lost any interest in 410 00:19:09,460 --> 00:19:06,650 sightings and I was just interested in 411 00:19:10,870 --> 00:19:09,470 what was it that I had seen and who in 412 00:19:12,340 --> 00:19:10,880 the world who in the world had the 413 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:12,350 answer to what I'd seen so that was 414 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:15,890 that's the from Saved 1977 until now 415 00:19:19,990 --> 00:19:18,170 that has been my pursuit is to find out 416 00:19:23,170 --> 00:19:20,000 who's got the answer who should we be 417 00:19:24,850 --> 00:19:23,180 listening to and my sort of underlying 418 00:19:28,990 --> 00:19:24,860 belief that somebody has to know what's 419 00:19:31,420 --> 00:19:29,000 going on yeah you know I I wonder that I 420 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:31,430 I have said a few times on the show too 421 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:34,610 that perhaps they know something like 422 00:19:40,630 --> 00:19:36,530 say let's just say some part of the US 423 00:19:43,870 --> 00:19:40,640 government you know will agree and knows 424 00:19:45,610 --> 00:19:43,880 that something is going on but the thing 425 00:19:48,190 --> 00:19:45,620 that I've wondered is perhaps they 426 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:48,200 really don't know in exactly what it is 427 00:19:52,270 --> 00:19:50,930 but want to keep it quiet because if 428 00:19:56,230 --> 00:19:52,280 they don't know they wouldn't know how 429 00:19:57,340 --> 00:19:56,240 to tell the public I used to believe 430 00:20:00,970 --> 00:19:57,350 that I don't believe it anymore 431 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:00,980 I absolutely believe they know and the 432 00:20:05,950 --> 00:20:04,010 whole catch to the cover-up is that they 433 00:20:09,639 --> 00:20:05,960 want you to think they don't know 434 00:20:12,999 --> 00:20:09,649 because as I say if you look behind the 435 00:20:14,350 --> 00:20:13,009 cover behind the the curtain it is the 436 00:20:16,749 --> 00:20:14,360 President of the United States who was 437 00:20:18,639 --> 00:20:16,759 running the cover-up he is in charge of 438 00:20:21,279 --> 00:20:18,649 everything he is the guy who runs the 439 00:20:24,639 --> 00:20:21,289 military he runs the intelligence he's 440 00:20:26,169 --> 00:20:24,649 the head of the executive branch of the 441 00:20:29,019 --> 00:20:26,179 government if you're dealing with 442 00:20:30,730 --> 00:20:29,029 foreign power with aliens he's the head 443 00:20:33,450 --> 00:20:30,740 of state you cannot have anybody 444 00:20:36,070 --> 00:20:33,460 negotiate except for the head of state 445 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:36,080 constitutionally he's in the loop so the 446 00:20:41,139 --> 00:20:38,570 what the I believe now is that the 447 00:20:43,180 --> 00:20:41,149 president knows it's unacknowledged 448 00:20:47,379 --> 00:20:43,190 special access which means not only is 449 00:20:49,299 --> 00:20:47,389 it secret 450 00:20:51,159 --> 00:20:49,309 they can't even acknowledge as a program 451 00:20:53,019 --> 00:20:51,169 because to acknowledge the program is 452 00:20:54,669 --> 00:20:53,029 just to invite more questions so you 453 00:20:59,529 --> 00:20:54,679 can't talk about it you have to deny it 454 00:21:03,310 --> 00:20:59,539 exists and you and I say after you say 455 00:21:05,139 --> 00:21:03,320 as a broadcaster if you knew the 456 00:21:06,549 --> 00:21:05,149 president was running the show you and 457 00:21:08,259 --> 00:21:06,559 two thousand other reporters would 458 00:21:10,299 --> 00:21:08,269 descend on the White House lawn and 459 00:21:12,820 --> 00:21:10,309 start asking him questions but if you 460 00:21:15,489 --> 00:21:12,830 think that it's the evil cabal or it's 461 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:15,499 the Illuminati or its The Wizard of Oz 462 00:21:18,399 --> 00:21:16,970 that's running the cover-up there's 463 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:18,409 nothing you can do because you can't 464 00:21:21,460 --> 00:21:20,210 interview those people that's just a 465 00:21:23,519 --> 00:21:21,470 solution type thing that I believe 466 00:21:26,379 --> 00:21:23,529 they're trying to put out there is that 467 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:26,389 Bill Clinton said and if you look at 468 00:21:31,149 --> 00:21:28,450 when Bill Clinton was asked a question 469 00:21:32,950 --> 00:21:31,159 there was a review done by Ben Hansen 470 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:32,960 who did fact and faked he worked for the 471 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:35,210 FBI and he can do all the you know the 472 00:21:39,519 --> 00:21:37,610 motions and and what people's reactions 473 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:39,529 are and how they respond and his 474 00:21:43,149 --> 00:21:41,330 analysis was that Bill Clinton was being 475 00:21:44,259 --> 00:21:43,159 deceptive and Bill Clinton was saying 476 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:44,269 you know I'm not probably the first 477 00:21:49,509 --> 00:21:47,090 president that that the bureaucrats have 478 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:49,519 kept in the dark and that bureaucrats 479 00:21:51,580 --> 00:21:50,690 have tried to wade out and all this kind 480 00:21:54,460 --> 00:21:51,590 of stuff that I really didn't know what 481 00:21:55,629 --> 00:21:54,470 was going on and when you review that 482 00:21:58,060 --> 00:21:55,639 thing it looks like he's being deceptive 483 00:22:00,039 --> 00:21:58,070 and that's the that's the party line 484 00:22:02,109 --> 00:22:00,049 that is Brock Obama said that's what 485 00:22:04,060 --> 00:22:02,119 we're told to say when he says it in a 486 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:04,070 joking manner and that's because 487 00:22:08,169 --> 00:22:05,690 everybody knows what the president lips 488 00:22:09,879 --> 00:22:08,179 if you suddenly realize if it suddenly 489 00:22:12,639 --> 00:22:09,889 becomes known that the president has 490 00:22:13,869 --> 00:22:12,649 been briefed then you know wow I mean 491 00:22:15,430 --> 00:22:13,879 this thing's for real you don't briefed 492 00:22:18,340 --> 00:22:15,440 the President on something that doesn't 493 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:18,350 exist and everybody knows I know what 494 00:22:21,310 --> 00:22:19,610 the president's phone number I act 495 00:22:24,940 --> 00:22:21,320 no his actual phone number to get into 496 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:24,950 the president's lying into to the to the 497 00:22:29,980 --> 00:22:27,290 the switchboard at that at the executive 498 00:22:31,780 --> 00:22:29,990 office this is not an unknown number and 499 00:22:34,570 --> 00:22:31,790 everybody knows where he lives 500 00:22:35,860 --> 00:22:34,580 and you end up in his position if it 501 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:35,870 becomes known the president's briefed 502 00:22:40,780 --> 00:22:38,450 that he starts facing questions and this 503 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:40,790 almost happened in May of this year I 504 00:22:43,870 --> 00:22:42,650 thought the cover-up was over I thought 505 00:22:45,780 --> 00:22:43,880 it was we were days away from the 506 00:22:49,030 --> 00:22:45,790 cover-up because what had happened is 507 00:22:50,830 --> 00:22:49,040 that Hillary Clinton had not talked 508 00:22:53,169 --> 00:22:50,840 about UFO who says a lot of people put 509 00:22:54,940 --> 00:22:53,179 out she had answered three questions she 510 00:22:56,590 --> 00:22:54,950 had been set up John Podesta set this 511 00:22:58,390 --> 00:22:56,600 thing up to get the reporters to ask her 512 00:23:00,010 --> 00:22:58,400 about aliens so she was asked three 513 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:00,020 questions and she answered them honestly 514 00:23:04,690 --> 00:23:02,450 she answered them clearly and this 515 00:23:06,370 --> 00:23:04,700 started sort of a firestorm of stories 516 00:23:08,350 --> 00:23:06,380 about Hillary's gonna disclose and all 517 00:23:10,360 --> 00:23:08,360 this kind of stuff and nothing happened 518 00:23:12,460 --> 00:23:10,370 until May the 10th of this year when the 519 00:23:14,710 --> 00:23:12,470 New York Times did a straight-up piece 520 00:23:17,890 --> 00:23:14,720 on UFOs and Hillary Clinton and Hillary 521 00:23:19,870 --> 00:23:17,900 Clinton's gonna disclose and that sort 522 00:23:21,730 --> 00:23:19,880 of broke the dam as soon as the New York 523 00:23:23,380 --> 00:23:21,740 Times did it it was like well this is a 524 00:23:25,120 --> 00:23:23,390 real newspaper I mean it doesn't really 525 00:23:28,120 --> 00:23:25,130 matter if you know some little 526 00:23:29,950 --> 00:23:28,130 rinky-dink podcast puts it out or some 527 00:23:31,510 --> 00:23:29,960 little newspaper puts it out but the New 528 00:23:33,310 --> 00:23:31,520 York Times is actually doing a story 529 00:23:35,409 --> 00:23:33,320 where they're questioning is Hillary 530 00:23:37,750 --> 00:23:35,419 gonna disclose this thing and that 531 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:37,760 started this this sort of what I've 532 00:23:44,919 --> 00:23:41,210 always said has to happen is you had the 533 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:44,929 White House press reporters who will not 534 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:47,210 ask a UFO question and that is because 535 00:23:53,650 --> 00:23:50,570 if you are say working for the NBC or 536 00:23:56,049 --> 00:23:53,660 for Fox or something and you go ask the 537 00:23:58,690 --> 00:23:56,059 dumb UFO question you embarrass the 538 00:24:00,880 --> 00:23:58,700 network and the president calls on 539 00:24:02,049 --> 00:24:00,890 people so the President may decide that 540 00:24:03,460 --> 00:24:02,059 you've embarrassed him that you don't 541 00:24:06,159 --> 00:24:03,470 want that they don't want this question 542 00:24:07,930 --> 00:24:06,169 asked so you end up back you know doing 543 00:24:09,970 --> 00:24:07,940 court reporting and you lose your thing 544 00:24:11,650 --> 00:24:09,980 and it what happens is if you're in the 545 00:24:13,180 --> 00:24:11,660 White House press corps you want to be 546 00:24:15,820 --> 00:24:13,190 respectable you want to ask the question 547 00:24:17,950 --> 00:24:15,830 about you know the economic situation of 548 00:24:19,360 --> 00:24:17,960 Afghanistan or some you know make it 549 00:24:20,710 --> 00:24:19,370 sound like you're smart you want ask 550 00:24:24,010 --> 00:24:20,720 those kinda questions you don't ask dumb 551 00:24:25,870 --> 00:24:24,020 UFO question and the last time before 552 00:24:27,790 --> 00:24:25,880 this happened in May when when all these 553 00:24:30,790 --> 00:24:27,800 questions started to be fired before 554 00:24:32,670 --> 00:24:30,800 that the the last time that White House 555 00:24:35,500 --> 00:24:32,680 press 556 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:35,510 secretary had taken a question on ufos 557 00:24:40,330 --> 00:24:38,570 was in 1997 when webster hubbell came 558 00:24:42,250 --> 00:24:40,340 forward he wrote a book friends in high 559 00:24:44,620 --> 00:24:42,260 places he's the one that came out and 560 00:24:46,180 --> 00:24:44,630 said before bill was elected when he was 561 00:24:48,580 --> 00:24:46,190 president-elect he had said to my folks 562 00:24:49,900 --> 00:24:48,590 you over them justice I want you to find 563 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:49,910 out the answer to two questions number 564 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:52,850 one are the UFOs and who killed JFK and 565 00:24:56,710 --> 00:24:55,010 he said I couldn't get proper answers so 566 00:24:58,570 --> 00:24:56,720 he puts this in the book and Deborah 567 00:25:00,340 --> 00:24:58,580 Oren who worked for the New York Post 568 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:00,350 and you have newspapers no matter what 569 00:25:04,900 --> 00:25:02,210 people say there are conservative 570 00:25:06,130 --> 00:25:04,910 newspapers and there's you know like 571 00:25:08,650 --> 00:25:06,140 Republican newspapers and there's 572 00:25:11,740 --> 00:25:08,660 democratic newspapers and the New York 573 00:25:13,750 --> 00:25:11,750 Post is a is a pro Republican newspaper 574 00:25:15,550 --> 00:25:13,760 and she hated the Clintons she put out 575 00:25:18,190 --> 00:25:15,560 the Monica Lewinsky story so she's the 576 00:25:21,460 --> 00:25:18,200 one that asked the question in 1997 of 577 00:25:22,930 --> 00:25:21,470 the press secretary and said webster 578 00:25:24,970 --> 00:25:22,940 hubbell has talked about bill sending 579 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:24,980 Webster out to look for UFOs is this 580 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:27,410 true and the press secretary abated it 581 00:25:32,500 --> 00:25:30,290 he talked about this Paulo this is 582 00:25:34,630 --> 00:25:32,510 famous weekly world news alien he said 583 00:25:36,550 --> 00:25:34,640 no he gave that job to the alien and so 584 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:36,560 he walks around her question so she 585 00:25:40,150 --> 00:25:38,210 comes back with a follow-up question she 586 00:25:42,190 --> 00:25:40,160 said is it true what mr. Hubble writes 587 00:25:44,650 --> 00:25:42,200 in his in his book and then the press 588 00:25:46,120 --> 00:25:44,660 secretary says I will not comment on 589 00:25:48,190 --> 00:25:46,130 what private people put in their private 590 00:25:49,870 --> 00:25:48,200 books so he walks around the question 591 00:25:52,810 --> 00:25:49,880 and Deborah Oren in a later interview 592 00:25:54,940 --> 00:25:52,820 said I sat there and waited for the rest 593 00:25:57,250 --> 00:25:54,950 of the White House press corps to follow 594 00:25:59,230 --> 00:25:57,260 up and they all just rolled over and 595 00:26:00,460 --> 00:25:59,240 played dead and the reason they play 596 00:26:02,260 --> 00:26:00,470 dead is because nobody wants to ask the 597 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:02,270 stupid question so they got away with it 598 00:26:05,950 --> 00:26:03,770 have webster hubbell put this in his 599 00:26:07,570 --> 00:26:05,960 book and nobody ever brought it up and 600 00:26:09,970 --> 00:26:07,580 nobody ever forced the White House to 601 00:26:12,610 --> 00:26:09,980 answer the question before that the 602 00:26:16,870 --> 00:26:12,620 question that was asked was President 603 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:16,880 Eisenhower in January of 1954 took a 604 00:26:22,510 --> 00:26:20,210 question 54 yeah he was January of 1954 605 00:26:23,950 --> 00:26:22,520 BP knows time there's been no question 606 00:26:26,860 --> 00:26:23,960 as to the White House so what happens in 607 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:26,870 May May the 10th New York Times does 608 00:26:30,190 --> 00:26:28,970 this piece and suddenly everybody gets 609 00:26:31,750 --> 00:26:30,200 religious on the White House press corps 610 00:26:33,670 --> 00:26:31,760 and they suddenly okay now it's not 611 00:26:35,290 --> 00:26:33,680 permissible because the White House the 612 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:35,300 New York Times has done a story so now 613 00:26:39,430 --> 00:26:36,890 we can ask the question and these were 614 00:26:43,660 --> 00:26:39,440 major reporters so the the one was with 615 00:26:45,370 --> 00:26:43,670 Yahoo News one was I think ABC and the 616 00:26:46,870 --> 00:26:45,380 other the third one was with 617 00:26:50,740 --> 00:26:46,880 african-american reporter for some 618 00:26:52,930 --> 00:26:50,750 african-american news outlet and the 619 00:26:54,910 --> 00:26:52,940 first question came and said the Newt 620 00:26:57,010 --> 00:26:54,920 the white house the New York Times has 621 00:26:59,200 --> 00:26:57,020 put out this story about Hillary going 622 00:27:01,240 --> 00:26:59,210 to disclose and this is a serious issue 623 00:27:04,270 --> 00:27:01,250 that people are interested in and I want 624 00:27:05,830 --> 00:27:04,280 to know is Barack Obama going to beat 625 00:27:08,170 --> 00:27:05,840 Hillary to the punch and disclose and 626 00:27:09,970 --> 00:27:08,180 the White House press secretary gets 627 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:09,980 saved because of course he doesn't have 628 00:27:13,750 --> 00:27:11,690 a clearance that's what he says he said 629 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:13,760 I don't have a clearance I don't have a 630 00:27:18,220 --> 00:27:16,010 tab in my briefing book for that I don't 631 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:18,230 have a clearance but the president has 632 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:21,410 jokingly indicated that his job gives 633 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:24,650 him access to that kind of material you 634 00:27:28,450 --> 00:27:27,290 should ask him it'll be interesting I 635 00:27:29,740 --> 00:27:28,460 couldn't believe it when he said you 636 00:27:31,420 --> 00:27:29,750 should ask him it should it'll be 637 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:31,430 interesting he basically rats out the 638 00:27:34,750 --> 00:27:32,810 president he throws the president of the 639 00:27:35,860 --> 00:27:34,760 bus and says ask the president and 640 00:27:37,330 --> 00:27:35,870 that's what I've been saying for years 641 00:27:39,190 --> 00:27:37,340 that's what you've got to do the 642 00:27:41,050 --> 00:27:39,200 president knows and you've got to ask 643 00:27:43,120 --> 00:27:41,060 him the briefing question what's going 644 00:27:44,740 --> 00:27:43,130 on so then the second question comes up 645 00:27:46,180 --> 00:27:44,750 and it's the same sort of thing it's the 646 00:27:49,450 --> 00:27:46,190 same question and he walks around the 647 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:49,460 question again and then on the 16th the 648 00:27:52,810 --> 00:27:50,810 questions were asked like may 10th was 649 00:27:53,830 --> 00:27:52,820 the article May the 11th two questions 650 00:27:56,230 --> 00:27:53,840 were asked by the White House press 651 00:27:58,060 --> 00:27:56,240 secretary press corps and you could tell 652 00:27:59,200 --> 00:27:58,070 the questions were serious questions 653 00:28:00,790 --> 00:27:59,210 there was no little green man there was 654 00:28:02,170 --> 00:28:00,800 no laughing whatever they were serious 655 00:28:04,300 --> 00:28:02,180 questions is this thing for real 656 00:28:05,710 --> 00:28:04,310 Hillary's talking about this thing does 657 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:05,720 the president get briefed is this thing 658 00:28:09,190 --> 00:28:08,090 for real and the the Paris secretary 659 00:28:11,110 --> 00:28:09,200 just walks around it by saying I don't 660 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:11,120 have a clearance for that and so then on 661 00:28:15,730 --> 00:28:13,250 the 16th this African American reporter 662 00:28:18,250 --> 00:28:15,740 Diana Kemmerer name is she says okay 663 00:28:21,430 --> 00:28:18,260 what about Roswell is Roswell did 664 00:28:24,130 --> 00:28:21,440 Roswell really happen what's the deal is 665 00:28:28,110 --> 00:28:24,140 this classified is this trying to keep 666 00:28:32,050 --> 00:28:28,120 this away from the people and then he's 667 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:32,060 the camera the guys name is the press 668 00:28:36,070 --> 00:28:33,890 secretary starts going for a drink of 669 00:28:37,810 --> 00:28:36,080 water as she's asking the question and 670 00:28:39,070 --> 00:28:37,820 she says to him look at that you do in 671 00:28:40,390 --> 00:28:39,080 the dance you're doing the dance at the 672 00:28:41,410 --> 00:28:40,400 podium you're getting a drink of water 673 00:28:42,700 --> 00:28:41,420 you're trying to figure out what you're 674 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:42,710 gonna say to walk around the question 675 00:28:48,340 --> 00:28:44,930 and then he says you just keep trying 676 00:28:49,930 --> 00:28:48,350 and and so basically he puts her off but 677 00:28:51,730 --> 00:28:49,940 you can see that the reporters have 678 00:28:53,710 --> 00:28:51,740 suddenly decided this thing's for real 679 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:53,720 there's some truth to this and they 680 00:28:57,190 --> 00:28:55,250 start asking this question the only 681 00:28:59,230 --> 00:28:57,200 thing that solved it was that the person 682 00:29:00,549 --> 00:28:59,240 who had the need to know the 683 00:29:03,190 --> 00:29:00,559 President of the United States at that 684 00:29:05,230 --> 00:29:03,200 time was in Japan and so it was a week 685 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:05,240 before he came back and by that time the 686 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:06,890 week was over the press had all gone 687 00:29:10,180 --> 00:29:08,330 back to sleep again and they basically 688 00:29:11,980 --> 00:29:10,190 didn't didn't have the question or 689 00:29:13,930 --> 00:29:11,990 Barack Obama didn't take the take the 690 00:29:15,810 --> 00:29:13,940 question from those three reporters so 691 00:29:18,910 --> 00:29:15,820 it basically came down to this position 692 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:18,920 where if the president had taken a news 693 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:20,570 conference the day after this all 694 00:29:23,500 --> 00:29:22,130 happened he would have faced the 695 00:29:25,990 --> 00:29:23,510 briefing question and Barack Obama 696 00:29:27,610 --> 00:29:26,000 compared to Bill Clinton Barack Obama 697 00:29:29,860 --> 00:29:27,620 has never I'll maintained 698 00:29:32,500 --> 00:29:29,870 he's had a lot of comments on UFOs he 699 00:29:34,180 --> 00:29:32,510 has never lied he has walked around it 700 00:29:36,250 --> 00:29:34,190 by making jokes and stuff but he has 701 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:36,260 never openly lied the way Bill Clinton 702 00:29:38,890 --> 00:29:37,610 does when Bill Clinton answers the 703 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:38,900 question so you're gonna have a 704 00:29:43,630 --> 00:29:40,730 situation where I say if you have a 705 00:29:45,190 --> 00:29:43,640 high-level official a vice president a 706 00:29:47,169 --> 00:29:45,200 president who may have gotten the 707 00:29:48,250 --> 00:29:47,179 briefing the Vice President may have got 708 00:29:50,350 --> 00:29:48,260 the briefing the president for sure has 709 00:29:51,970 --> 00:29:50,360 the briefing or a four-star general that 710 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:51,980 you unified command will have had the 711 00:29:56,290 --> 00:29:54,650 briefing so this is the the question 712 00:29:58,150 --> 00:29:56,300 that you've got to ask him and that's 713 00:29:59,560 --> 00:29:58,160 the question I asked Dick Cheney the 714 00:30:01,210 --> 00:29:59,570 briefing question you don't care if 715 00:30:03,010 --> 00:30:01,220 they're interested in UFOs you don't 716 00:30:04,750 --> 00:30:03,020 care if they've seen a UFO who cares 717 00:30:07,690 --> 00:30:04,760 the only question you want to ask him is 718 00:30:10,060 --> 00:30:07,700 did you get briefed that's the that's 719 00:30:13,419 --> 00:30:10,070 the answer is did someone walk in your 720 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:13,429 office swear you to secrecy and then 721 00:30:18,130 --> 00:30:15,650 tell you what was going on because the 722 00:30:20,410 --> 00:30:18,140 17 intelligence agencies that work for 723 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:20,420 that all they do is one job they provide 724 00:30:24,190 --> 00:30:22,130 the best intelligence possible 725 00:30:26,290 --> 00:30:24,200 for the people at 60,000 feet and that's 726 00:30:28,930 --> 00:30:26,300 the president that's his executive 727 00:30:31,750 --> 00:30:28,940 branch executive branch people that's 728 00:30:34,150 --> 00:30:31,760 the head of the intelligence for the 729 00:30:35,290 --> 00:30:34,160 Senate and the and and the house that's 730 00:30:37,419 --> 00:30:35,300 the people that they provide the best 731 00:30:40,299 --> 00:30:37,429 intelligence so when a person gets a 732 00:30:42,430 --> 00:30:40,309 briefing the top intelligence people on 733 00:30:43,780 --> 00:30:42,440 that subject will go in they'll swear 734 00:30:45,730 --> 00:30:43,790 you to secrecy at whatever level that 735 00:30:47,290 --> 00:30:45,740 secrecy is and they will tell you the 736 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:47,300 truth that's the truth so that's the 737 00:30:51,940 --> 00:30:49,130 question that Dick Cheney because the 738 00:30:54,820 --> 00:30:51,950 rumor always was a dick cheney was mj-12 739 00:30:57,700 --> 00:30:54,830 guy he was like the really powerful guy 740 00:30:59,710 --> 00:30:57,710 and Bush actually had said Cheney knows 741 00:31:01,000 --> 00:30:59,720 about it he knows it's the first thing 742 00:31:02,140 --> 00:31:01,010 I'll he's gonna do when he gets the 743 00:31:02,500 --> 00:31:02,150 White House so he gets to the White 744 00:31:05,890 --> 00:31:02,510 House 745 00:31:07,299 --> 00:31:05,900 it's April 11 2001 he's on a radio talk 746 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:07,309 show in Washington on the Diane Rehm 747 00:31:11,110 --> 00:31:09,530 Show I know how to get in on the show I 748 00:31:11,529 --> 00:31:11,120 know how to get on the phone I know how 749 00:31:14,739 --> 00:31:11,539 to 750 00:31:17,109 --> 00:31:14,749 works so I set this thing up I'm the 751 00:31:19,539 --> 00:31:17,119 first caller in and I asked him mr. 752 00:31:21,430 --> 00:31:19,549 Cheney in all your jobs and government 753 00:31:24,639 --> 00:31:21,440 have you ever been briefed on the 754 00:31:27,489 --> 00:31:24,649 subject of UFOs if so when was it and 755 00:31:28,389 --> 00:31:27,499 what were you told and he was caught off 756 00:31:30,489 --> 00:31:28,399 guard you could tell he was caught off 757 00:31:31,930 --> 00:31:30,499 guard he said if I had been briefed on 758 00:31:33,609 --> 00:31:31,940 that subject it would probably be 759 00:31:35,919 --> 00:31:33,619 classified and I wouldn't be talking 760 00:31:37,509 --> 00:31:35,929 about it that's the truth that's how it 761 00:31:39,820 --> 00:31:37,519 works it's classified and I wouldn't 762 00:31:41,830 --> 00:31:39,830 talk about it and so that's where it 763 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:41,840 comes down where I thought there was 764 00:31:45,489 --> 00:31:44,210 going to be disclosure and they sir 765 00:31:47,019 --> 00:31:45,499 walked around it again and now we're 766 00:31:49,029 --> 00:31:47,029 back to this sort of situation of 767 00:31:50,139 --> 00:31:49,039 waiting for someone to ask the question 768 00:31:52,719 --> 00:31:50,149 because you could ask the question of 769 00:31:55,269 --> 00:31:52,729 the secretary to fancy may not know you 770 00:31:56,799 --> 00:31:55,279 can ask the CIA guy he may not know you 771 00:31:59,560 --> 00:31:56,809 can ask a lot of people the only person 772 00:32:01,239 --> 00:31:59,570 for sure that I would say knows that 773 00:32:03,129 --> 00:32:01,249 nobody's gonna tell me differently that 774 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:03,139 doesn't know is the president because 775 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:05,570 constitutionally and and I'm a Canadian 776 00:32:10,509 --> 00:32:08,450 so I sort of we see this with Americans 777 00:32:12,430 --> 00:32:10,519 Americans except for maybe Donald Trump 778 00:32:14,019 --> 00:32:12,440 are absolutely anal about the 779 00:32:15,430 --> 00:32:14,029 Constitution I mean you got your First 780 00:32:17,349 --> 00:32:15,440 Amendment right to free speech you got 781 00:32:18,909 --> 00:32:17,359 your second Amendment right to bear arms 782 00:32:20,799 --> 00:32:18,919 a Fourth Amendment right against the 783 00:32:21,999 --> 00:32:20,809 search and seizure and Americans are 784 00:32:23,769 --> 00:32:22,009 just like talking about this 785 00:32:25,479 --> 00:32:23,779 Constitution in Canada you ask about the 786 00:32:27,489 --> 00:32:25,489 Constitution they'll say what 787 00:32:29,469 --> 00:32:27,499 Constitution like nobody has any idea 788 00:32:31,029 --> 00:32:29,479 but nobody's ran it nobody cares about 789 00:32:32,859 --> 00:32:31,039 it and in the United States everybody's 790 00:32:34,239 --> 00:32:32,869 into that thing so the whole point is 791 00:32:36,519 --> 00:32:34,249 that if you have these high-level 792 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:36,529 officials they are very aware of the 793 00:32:40,989 --> 00:32:38,330 Constitution and that's why you have 794 00:32:43,119 --> 00:32:40,999 situations that that show that this is 795 00:32:45,310 --> 00:32:43,129 for real that that if the president 796 00:32:46,719 --> 00:32:45,320 needs to know he's going to be told you 797 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:46,729 have this thing with with the nuclear 798 00:32:52,599 --> 00:32:47,210 footballs 799 00:32:54,820 --> 00:32:52,609 these these things that these satchels 800 00:32:56,589 --> 00:32:54,830 that are carried around by the sort of a 801 00:32:58,119 --> 00:32:56,599 guy that follows the president around 802 00:33:00,009 --> 00:32:58,129 he's always within reach of the 803 00:33:01,599 --> 00:33:00,019 president and this is it so if there's a 804 00:33:03,669 --> 00:33:01,609 nuclear war the president has like 30 805 00:33:05,349 --> 00:33:03,679 seconds or 60 seconds to decide what 806 00:33:07,210 --> 00:33:05,359 he's gonna do there's no conversation 807 00:33:08,739 --> 00:33:07,220 with anybody else he basically makes the 808 00:33:10,779 --> 00:33:08,749 decision what he's gonna do and he's got 809 00:33:12,909 --> 00:33:10,789 all the codes in this satchel there are 810 00:33:14,289 --> 00:33:12,919 two of them one is the is carried with 811 00:33:16,210 --> 00:33:14,299 the Vice President once carried with the 812 00:33:18,159 --> 00:33:16,220 president because this is constitutional 813 00:33:19,629 --> 00:33:18,169 thing that if the president dies you 814 00:33:21,909 --> 00:33:19,639 have to have somebody who's within a 815 00:33:24,220 --> 00:33:21,919 couple of seconds of launching a nuclear 816 00:33:25,390 --> 00:33:24,230 attack the same as when the president 817 00:33:27,460 --> 00:33:25,400 gets elected 818 00:33:29,260 --> 00:33:27,470 on the day of the inauguration there are 819 00:33:30,970 --> 00:33:29,270 two footballs one for the incoming 820 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:30,980 president one for the outgoing president 821 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:33,170 because there's this anal Constitution 822 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:35,330 thing that there may be 30 seconds 823 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:37,850 when there isn't a president and so it 824 00:33:40,780 --> 00:33:38,930 comes down to this thing where you have 825 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:40,790 to have these two footballs and so if 826 00:33:45,310 --> 00:33:42,650 you see if they're that anal about the 827 00:33:47,260 --> 00:33:45,320 Constitution and about following it to 828 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:47,270 the letter of the law there's no way 829 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:49,850 that you're gonna have some gs-13 down 830 00:33:54,310 --> 00:33:51,130 in the bottom of the State Department 831 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:54,320 negotiating with greys or aliens or 832 00:33:58,510 --> 00:33:56,330 whoever this this consciousness is it 833 00:34:00,880 --> 00:33:58,520 has to be the present if it's a foreign 834 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:00,890 power the president is constitutionally 835 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:02,690 the guy in charge the same as these the 836 00:34:05,830 --> 00:34:04,010 head of the military if the military's 837 00:34:07,900 --> 00:34:05,840 covering up it's all going up to him all 838 00:34:09,100 --> 00:34:07,910 the intelligence agencies report to the 839 00:34:11,470 --> 00:34:09,110 president that's what they do they don't 840 00:34:13,510 --> 00:34:11,480 sell Trump say steaks they don't sell 841 00:34:15,669 --> 00:34:13,520 cars all you do is one thing provide the 842 00:34:17,860 --> 00:34:15,679 best intelligence for the present so 843 00:34:19,720 --> 00:34:17,870 it's a long answer to your question yeah 844 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:19,730 well you know I've got I've got a 845 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:22,370 scenario that I want to run by you on 846 00:34:28,419 --> 00:34:25,970 this yeah okay so let's say we know that 847 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:28,429 Bill Clinton was in office and yeah then 848 00:34:33,340 --> 00:34:31,490 if that is true what you said of course 849 00:34:35,500 --> 00:34:33,350 he was sworn to secrecy not to talk 850 00:34:37,450 --> 00:34:35,510 about and all that well he is married to 851 00:34:39,490 --> 00:34:37,460 Hillary and why wouldn't they have the 852 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:39,500 conversation behind closed doors look 853 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:42,530 don't bother getting into this because 854 00:34:45,970 --> 00:34:44,810 it's going to go nowhere you're going to 855 00:34:49,060 --> 00:34:45,980 be briefed on it then you're going to be 856 00:34:50,710 --> 00:34:49,070 sworn to secrecy that's the type of 857 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:50,720 thing that I would see if it follows 858 00:34:56,770 --> 00:34:52,850 what you're saying like the president is 859 00:34:58,450 --> 00:34:56,780 briefed on it sworn to secrecy I would 860 00:35:00,250 --> 00:34:58,460 think that he would say hey Hillary 861 00:35:02,490 --> 00:35:00,260 don't even talk about the uf of someone 862 00:35:04,630 --> 00:35:02,500 ask you something about UFO topic just 863 00:35:06,850 --> 00:35:04,640 move on to something else 864 00:35:09,700 --> 00:35:06,860 you're saying bill would say that to her 865 00:35:13,390 --> 00:35:09,710 yeah because you know like though he 866 00:35:15,070 --> 00:35:13,400 knows all I'm saying now like went 867 00:35:17,050 --> 00:35:15,080 before she came out in May and started 868 00:35:18,580 --> 00:35:17,060 talking about it or at was asked 869 00:35:21,970 --> 00:35:18,590 questions and answered questions about 870 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:21,980 it if if bill knows that it's a brick 871 00:35:26,290 --> 00:35:24,170 wall and can't go anywhere why would why 872 00:35:29,710 --> 00:35:26,300 wouldn't he share that with his wife and 873 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:29,720 say don't even go there okay because it 874 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:31,370 wasn't her decision it was John 875 00:35:34,900 --> 00:35:33,650 Podesta's decision and things have 876 00:35:36,130 --> 00:35:34,910 changed that's what I would say is 877 00:35:38,830 --> 00:35:36,140 happens things have changed there's 878 00:35:41,410 --> 00:35:38,840 always been this idea in fact I think 879 00:35:42,850 --> 00:35:41,420 talks about this there's disclosure 880 00:35:46,950 --> 00:35:42,860 event that was gonna take place with 881 00:35:50,020 --> 00:35:46,960 George Bush in August of 1991 after the 882 00:35:51,340 --> 00:35:50,030 Russia fell there was this you'll read 883 00:35:52,900 --> 00:35:51,350 it in Dolan's book there's a few people 884 00:35:54,550 --> 00:35:52,910 talk about this this disclosure thing 885 00:35:56,590 --> 00:35:54,560 where they were going to do the 886 00:35:58,600 --> 00:35:56,600 disclosure thing they had Kennebunkport 887 00:36:00,040 --> 00:35:58,610 they had Bush at Kennebunkport they had 888 00:36:01,330 --> 00:36:00,050 all these people it was all set up and 889 00:36:03,220 --> 00:36:01,340 they were gonna go do the briefing and 890 00:36:05,170 --> 00:36:03,230 they need it they the boat they figured 891 00:36:06,190 --> 00:36:05,180 the boat was there was sixteen people or 892 00:36:08,740 --> 00:36:06,200 something like that and they figured 893 00:36:10,330 --> 00:36:08,750 they had eight votes or something and 894 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:10,340 they get the other eight votes and it 895 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:12,290 was all set up and just when they went 896 00:36:16,630 --> 00:36:13,850 the boat went exactly the opposite way 897 00:36:18,490 --> 00:36:16,640 so that's if you hear Hillary talk about 898 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:18,500 it in one of the statements when Hillary 899 00:36:24,970 --> 00:36:22,490 talks about it she says if I can get 900 00:36:26,740 --> 00:36:24,980 agreement and that skips by everybody 901 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:26,750 she says if I can get agreement which 902 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:29,210 means and she knows how it works 903 00:36:33,250 --> 00:36:31,370 so she's saying if I can get agreement 904 00:36:34,510 --> 00:36:33,260 so it means that she's got whatever the 905 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:34,520 thing is well there's the mj-12 906 00:36:38,830 --> 00:36:36,410 committee whether it's the head of the 907 00:36:41,230 --> 00:36:38,840 head of National Intelligence the NSA 908 00:36:43,210 --> 00:36:41,240 CIA a group of those type of people all 909 00:36:44,890 --> 00:36:43,220 get together there's a vote so I think 910 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:44,900 the boat has changed I think the vote 911 00:36:48,940 --> 00:36:47,330 used to be like like if it was mj-12 was 912 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:48,950 12 to zero then it was ten to two and 913 00:36:52,930 --> 00:36:50,930 eight to four and I think the vote is 914 00:36:54,610 --> 00:36:52,940 now in the opposite direction where they 915 00:36:56,140 --> 00:36:54,620 have decided and I've heard this from 916 00:36:57,850 --> 00:36:56,150 behind closed doors that they are making 917 00:36:59,920 --> 00:36:57,860 a move they just don't know how to get 918 00:37:01,690 --> 00:36:59,930 this thing out they want to the one 919 00:37:03,730 --> 00:37:01,700 statement I was told is you wanted out 920 00:37:05,170 --> 00:37:03,740 but you don't want the fing government's 921 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:05,180 fingerprints on it and I said well good 922 00:37:09,190 --> 00:37:07,370 luck with that but in one case where 923 00:37:10,990 --> 00:37:09,200 Hillary's actually asked about it she's 924 00:37:12,550 --> 00:37:11,000 asked about the Bill Clinton thing when 925 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:12,560 she's on the Kimmel show and Bill and 926 00:37:16,060 --> 00:37:14,450 Kimmel always has this joke you know if 927 00:37:17,650 --> 00:37:16,070 I had my hand on the Bible my hand would 928 00:37:18,820 --> 00:37:17,660 still be hot coming off the Bible and 929 00:37:20,470 --> 00:37:18,830 I'd be heading to the White House to 930 00:37:23,350 --> 00:37:20,480 find out what's wrong with the situation 931 00:37:26,470 --> 00:37:23,360 with the UFOs and he says I had your 932 00:37:28,570 --> 00:37:26,480 husband on here and he said I didn't 933 00:37:31,570 --> 00:37:28,580 know I had no I couldn't find out 934 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:31,580 anything so what about you and what she 935 00:37:35,830 --> 00:37:34,010 says she starts the answer immediately 936 00:37:37,630 --> 00:37:35,840 and if you look at Hillary's answer 937 00:37:39,790 --> 00:37:37,640 she's very direct on these things she's 938 00:37:41,770 --> 00:37:39,800 not hedging like bills she's not humming 939 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:41,780 and on she goes directly to it but the 940 00:37:46,870 --> 00:37:43,490 people start laughing so she stops and 941 00:37:48,820 --> 00:37:46,880 she said well I'm gonna do it again 942 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:48,830 which is completely different than bill 943 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:50,090 bill saying I couldn't find anything and 944 00:37:52,300 --> 00:37:51,890 she said well I'm gonna look again I'm 945 00:37:54,220 --> 00:37:52,310 gonna do 946 00:37:56,470 --> 00:37:54,230 again I'm gonna make the review again as 947 00:37:58,930 --> 00:37:56,480 if there is a plan the same as John 948 00:38:01,630 --> 00:37:58,940 Podesta and I maintained if people will 949 00:38:04,450 --> 00:38:01,640 argue with me I absolutely maintain John 950 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:04,460 Podesta this all started when Hillary 951 00:38:09,190 --> 00:38:06,530 did during the campaign she did an 952 00:38:10,660 --> 00:38:09,200 interview with Lena Dunham so she does 953 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:10,670 this interview with Lena Dunham and this 954 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:12,290 is when John makes the famous tweet now 955 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:13,970 John Podesta you got remember John 956 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:16,130 Podesta calls himself he likes to be 957 00:38:20,620 --> 00:38:18,770 part of the cult of non personality John 958 00:38:22,570 --> 00:38:20,630 Podesta is not in front of the camera he 959 00:38:24,910 --> 00:38:22,580 doesn't want to talk to anybody he's the 960 00:38:26,650 --> 00:38:24,920 guy the the The Wizard of Oz behind the 961 00:38:27,940 --> 00:38:26,660 curtain pulling his strings and he's in 962 00:38:29,170 --> 00:38:27,950 charge of the whole Hillary Clinton 963 00:38:30,460 --> 00:38:29,180 campaign he's running the show but 964 00:38:32,110 --> 00:38:30,470 you're never gonna see the guy the odd 965 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:32,120 time he'll be interviewed somebody else 966 00:38:36,370 --> 00:38:33,530 track him down whatever he doesn't want 967 00:38:38,890 --> 00:38:36,380 to be in in the forefront so he very 968 00:38:40,810 --> 00:38:38,900 rarely tweets but he tweets when Lena 969 00:38:43,750 --> 00:38:40,820 Dunham does the interview he says good 970 00:38:46,510 --> 00:38:43,760 interview lenient Lena next time ask her 971 00:38:48,730 --> 00:38:46,520 about the aliens when I saw that I knew 972 00:38:51,340 --> 00:38:48,740 something was up I mean really that this 973 00:38:52,900 --> 00:38:51,350 is this is really something because what 974 00:38:54,340 --> 00:38:52,910 you gotta remember is because he's the 975 00:38:55,780 --> 00:38:54,350 head of the Hillary Clinton needs the 976 00:38:59,740 --> 00:38:55,790 chairperson of the Hillary Clinton 977 00:39:02,320 --> 00:38:59,750 campaign he is in charge of the whole 978 00:39:04,750 --> 00:39:02,330 operation and everything I maintain 979 00:39:07,720 --> 00:39:04,760 everything in a presidential campaign 980 00:39:09,850 --> 00:39:07,730 except maybe Trump's campaign is done by 981 00:39:11,650 --> 00:39:09,860 focus groups and think that Trump 982 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:11,660 actually makes jokes about Hillary with 983 00:39:15,250 --> 00:39:13,490 the focus groups that what you do is you 984 00:39:16,810 --> 00:39:15,260 take an issue and you put it in front of 985 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:16,820 a focus group and you you everybody's 986 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:18,170 got the little counters and you watch 987 00:39:20,890 --> 00:39:19,490 whether the numbers going up or down or 988 00:39:21,940 --> 00:39:20,900 whatever and if the number goes up 989 00:39:24,070 --> 00:39:21,950 that's something we're gonna talk about 990 00:39:25,780 --> 00:39:24,080 if the number goes down you stay away 991 00:39:26,830 --> 00:39:25,790 from this subject and so that's what 992 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:26,840 they do they put everything in front of 993 00:39:31,330 --> 00:39:29,090 focus groups so when John Podesta says 994 00:39:33,670 --> 00:39:31,340 the Lena Dunham during a presidential 995 00:39:37,510 --> 00:39:33,680 campaign that is going to cost a billion 996 00:39:40,150 --> 00:39:37,520 dollars where if it goes south her gonna 997 00:39:41,410 --> 00:39:40,160 be forgetful if suddenly she started 998 00:39:44,140 --> 00:39:41,420 talking about UFOs and suddenly 999 00:39:46,270 --> 00:39:44,150 everybody wrote her off like Kucinich in 1000 00:39:48,670 --> 00:39:46,280 2008 and suddenly she drops twenty 1001 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:48,680 percent in the polls John Podesta would 1002 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:51,050 go down in history as the were the most 1003 00:39:57,010 --> 00:39:54,050 stupid man in the entire world so I say 1004 00:39:58,990 --> 00:39:57,020 there is no doubt that this issue the 1005 00:40:01,330 --> 00:39:59,000 UFO issue was put in front of a focus 1006 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:01,340 group John would not have asked a 1007 00:40:05,350 --> 00:40:03,170 reporter during a major major 1008 00:40:06,130 --> 00:40:05,360 presidential campaign to ask about 1009 00:40:08,740 --> 00:40:06,140 aliens 1010 00:40:10,569 --> 00:40:08,750 unless he knew that the numbers went up 1011 00:40:12,130 --> 00:40:10,579 when the people pushed the counters that 1012 00:40:15,039 --> 00:40:12,140 this was a positive issue and it would 1013 00:40:16,660 --> 00:40:15,049 not hurt like it did causation 2008 and 1014 00:40:17,890 --> 00:40:16,670 that's exactly what's happened it hasn't 1015 00:40:19,569 --> 00:40:17,900 gone south people have said well why 1016 00:40:20,890 --> 00:40:19,579 isn't she getting attacked because they 1017 00:40:22,210 --> 00:40:20,900 put it in front of focus group it's not 1018 00:40:24,309 --> 00:40:22,220 that big a deal people aren't really 1019 00:40:26,349 --> 00:40:24,319 interested and it's not that toxic issue 1020 00:40:28,990 --> 00:40:26,359 it used to be so it's John Podesta 1021 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:29,000 that's behind this whole thing he did 1022 00:40:35,170 --> 00:40:33,170 the initial tweet in 2000 and 2015 the 1023 00:40:37,630 --> 00:40:35,180 day before he believes the Barack Obama 1024 00:40:40,210 --> 00:40:37,640 administration it's a very famous and a 1025 00:40:42,670 --> 00:40:40,220 very important tweet where he says once 1026 00:40:44,769 --> 00:40:42,680 again and that's important when you read 1027 00:40:46,809 --> 00:40:44,779 John Podesta he is the smartest guy in 1028 00:40:48,609 --> 00:40:46,819 the room he is the smartest Democrat the 1029 00:40:52,089 --> 00:40:48,619 most powerful Democrat there is he's the 1030 00:40:53,470 --> 00:40:52,099 the the wheeler and dealer in in the 1031 00:40:55,660 --> 00:40:53,480 Democratic Party that's running the 1032 00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:55,670 whole show so when you see his tweets 1033 00:40:58,690 --> 00:40:57,410 you got to read every word he says and 1034 00:41:01,000 --> 00:40:58,700 he's being very careful about what he 1035 00:41:02,710 --> 00:41:01,010 says he says once again my biggest 1036 00:41:04,690 --> 00:41:02,720 disappointment which means he's done 1037 00:41:06,220 --> 00:41:04,700 this before he tried to get built to 1038 00:41:08,740 --> 00:41:06,230 disclose he couldn't get built to 1039 00:41:11,470 --> 00:41:08,750 disclose and then he says once again my 1040 00:41:13,089 --> 00:41:11,480 biggest disappointment of 2014 was not 1041 00:41:14,650 --> 00:41:13,099 getting you a full disclosure he says 1042 00:41:16,809 --> 00:41:14,660 this the day he's leaving the Brock 1043 00:41:18,519 --> 00:41:16,819 Obama administration sort of putting 1044 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:18,529 himself on the record because the 1045 00:41:22,059 --> 00:41:19,970 Washington Post that actually put a 1046 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:22,069 story because I was filing all his fo a 1047 00:41:27,220 --> 00:41:25,130 stuff they said John you're in this box 1048 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:27,230 now as soon as Barack Obama leaves the 1049 00:41:30,309 --> 00:41:28,970 administration you're gonna be asked 1050 00:41:33,339 --> 00:41:30,319 about all the correspondence between 1051 00:41:34,450 --> 00:41:33,349 Barack Obama and Podesta on UFOs so he's 1052 00:41:36,609 --> 00:41:34,460 putting himself on the record okay 1053 00:41:39,099 --> 00:41:36,619 here's the record I asked the question 1054 00:41:42,549 --> 00:41:39,109 and he confirmed that to this rockstar 1055 00:41:44,740 --> 00:41:42,559 guy that's running around tom tom 1056 00:41:46,809 --> 00:41:44,750 delonge he's confirmed he Tom DeLonge 1057 00:41:49,059 --> 00:41:46,819 confirms that Podesta did talk to Obama 1058 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:49,069 about UFOs so this is this whole thing 1059 00:41:52,390 --> 00:41:50,450 that he said once again my biggest 1060 00:41:54,549 --> 00:41:52,400 disappointment was not getting UFO 1061 00:41:56,609 --> 00:41:54,559 disclosure so when Hillary comes in then 1062 00:41:59,470 --> 00:41:56,619 you see that with the court court the 1063 00:42:02,769 --> 00:41:59,480 conversation is in the interview that 1064 00:42:07,809 --> 00:42:02,779 John does in Las Vegas with with naps 1065 00:42:11,620 --> 00:42:07,819 people at Kaos kls TV he says the fact 1066 00:42:14,319 --> 00:42:11,630 he said I think I've convinced her she 1067 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:14,329 has to look at the material and disclose 1068 00:42:17,079 --> 00:42:15,890 what she can now it's that's very 1069 00:42:18,940 --> 00:42:17,089 important you listen John you listen 1070 00:42:20,140 --> 00:42:18,950 every word he's saying so he says I 1071 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:20,150 think I convinced 1072 00:42:24,610 --> 00:42:22,370 which means I couldn't convince Hill 1073 00:42:26,350 --> 00:42:24,620 Bill to do it I couldn't convince Barack 1074 00:42:28,420 --> 00:42:26,360 Obama to do it but I've convinced 1075 00:42:31,540 --> 00:42:28,430 Hillary to do it and then he says she's 1076 00:42:33,250 --> 00:42:31,550 going to take the material and look at 1077 00:42:35,110 --> 00:42:33,260 it and disclose as much as you can which 1078 00:42:37,390 --> 00:42:35,120 means there's a process it's not the 1079 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:37,400 evil cabal the you know Wizard of Oz 1080 00:42:39,730 --> 00:42:39,290 running the cover-up it's the president 1081 00:42:41,530 --> 00:42:39,740 knows 1082 00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:41,540 Hillary will get the material in front 1083 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:44,210 of her she'll look at it and she will 1084 00:42:48,820 --> 00:42:46,010 disclose as much as you can and that's 1085 00:42:51,220 --> 00:42:48,830 exactly what Hillary has said yeah if 1086 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:51,230 it's not natural security I will release 1087 00:42:54,730 --> 00:42:53,450 the material so she had she is admitting 1088 00:42:57,370 --> 00:42:54,740 that she will have access to the 1089 00:42:58,900 --> 00:42:57,380 material now have you ever spoken or 1090 00:43:05,140 --> 00:42:58,910 communicated in any type of way with 1091 00:43:07,510 --> 00:43:05,150 Podesta no we do have a message board by 1092 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:07,520 the way and people listening live to 1093 00:43:10,780 --> 00:43:09,290 post questions and I have another one 1094 00:43:11,620 --> 00:43:10,790 right after that but what were you guys 1095 00:43:14,380 --> 00:43:11,630 what were you saying 1096 00:43:15,970 --> 00:43:14,390 yeah he just as I said he says he's part 1097 00:43:18,190 --> 00:43:15,980 of the cult of non personality he does 1098 00:43:20,650 --> 00:43:18,200 not get dragged in he deals with with 1099 00:43:22,630 --> 00:43:20,660 Leslie Kane right yeah but I don't think 1100 00:43:24,940 --> 00:43:22,640 he Leslie Kane even has any position 1101 00:43:27,130 --> 00:43:24,950 because that's not the way John operates 1102 00:43:29,350 --> 00:43:27,140 John when he wants to do something he 1103 00:43:32,230 --> 00:43:29,360 will suddenly appear with the with a 1104 00:43:33,910 --> 00:43:32,240 tweet otherwise he's the last guy you're 1105 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:33,920 ever gonna get the interview yeah Kane 1106 00:43:40,060 --> 00:43:36,770 also said that she thought he was joking 1107 00:43:44,950 --> 00:43:40,070 but there's a lot of people that 1108 00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:44,960 disagree with that okay so one of the we 1109 00:43:51,490 --> 00:43:46,610 have a listener down and I think it's 1110 00:43:54,070 --> 00:43:51,500 Tasmania or down that way somewhere he 1111 00:43:55,810 --> 00:43:54,080 was wondering why is it just up to the 1112 00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:55,820 US what about all the other countries 1113 00:43:59,860 --> 00:43:57,410 that know something's going on 1114 00:44:02,560 --> 00:43:59,870 okay when when I first had my UFO 1115 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:02,570 sighting I went to investigate on the 1116 00:44:04,900 --> 00:44:03,770 Canadian government and the guy that ran 1117 00:44:08,980 --> 00:44:04,910 the Canadian government program was 1118 00:44:12,250 --> 00:44:08,990 Wilbert Smith and we recovered all his 1119 00:44:14,290 --> 00:44:12,260 government stuff which is access to 1120 00:44:16,810 --> 00:44:14,300 everybody but we also recovered all his 1121 00:44:18,730 --> 00:44:16,820 private material and that's like what 1122 00:44:21,850 --> 00:44:18,740 10,000 pages of material whatever it's 1123 00:44:23,950 --> 00:44:21,860 at the University of Ottawa so we saw 1124 00:44:26,650 --> 00:44:23,960 that material there's a letter from 1956 1125 00:44:28,870 --> 00:44:26,660 written to a guy named Cass well he said 1126 00:44:31,540 --> 00:44:28,880 just for information every nation of the 1127 00:44:33,770 --> 00:44:31,550 world has been informed of the existence 1128 00:44:37,310 --> 00:44:33,780 of the itísö Howry for 1129 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:37,320 and each government is up is it is up to 1130 00:44:41,510 --> 00:44:39,210 them to decide what they're gonna do so 1131 00:44:43,250 --> 00:44:41,520 that's a guy who ran the conglomerate 1132 00:44:45,260 --> 00:44:43,260 UFO program who basically says they all 1133 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:45,270 know it always comes down to the thing 1134 00:44:52,700 --> 00:44:48,930 where it's it's always the bottom line 1135 00:44:55,130 --> 00:44:52,710 to this thing is is military weapon 1136 00:44:56,750 --> 00:44:55,140 secrets its lead time that the farther 1137 00:45:00,550 --> 00:44:56,760 you can get ahead of your opponent the 1138 00:45:03,290 --> 00:45:00,560 better the better you are in terms of 1139 00:45:05,750 --> 00:45:03,300 weapons so if for example the atomic 1140 00:45:07,130 --> 00:45:05,760 bomb is the example I was used so in in 1141 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:07,140 World War two the Americans dropped the 1142 00:45:10,850 --> 00:45:09,210 atomic bomb and then of course they go 1143 00:45:12,170 --> 00:45:10,860 running to the Emperor in Japan and say 1144 00:45:14,990 --> 00:45:12,180 well you know drop this atomic bomb 1145 00:45:16,100 --> 00:45:15,000 killed a hundred thousand people and we 1146 00:45:17,510 --> 00:45:16,110 got to fight back and of course the 1147 00:45:18,650 --> 00:45:17,520 Emperor says okay just build one of 1148 00:45:20,450 --> 00:45:18,660 these bombs and we'll drop it on them 1149 00:45:22,550 --> 00:45:20,460 and how long's it gonna take oh I don't 1150 00:45:25,130 --> 00:45:22,560 know about eight years you can't that's 1151 00:45:28,580 --> 00:45:25,140 what lead time is is do with weapons so 1152 00:45:32,030 --> 00:45:28,590 the way the game is played is that all 1153 00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:32,040 the major powers either control the 1154 00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:33,810 smaller countries or the lead the big 1155 00:45:39,350 --> 00:45:36,690 powers it becomes a game of who's going 1156 00:45:40,850 --> 00:45:39,360 to put the cards down first so if for 1157 00:45:42,050 --> 00:45:40,860 example you have 80 percent year the 1158 00:45:44,420 --> 00:45:42,060 Americans you have 80 percent of the 1159 00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:44,430 secret and you put your cards down and 1160 00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:46,290 the Russians have 80 percent and you 1161 00:45:50,240 --> 00:45:48,330 suddenly give the Russians the eight 1162 00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:50,250 twenty percent they need then they say 1163 00:45:53,630 --> 00:45:51,570 okay where we decide we're not going to 1164 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:53,640 disclose and they've got the hundred 1165 00:45:57,260 --> 00:45:55,410 percent you've got 80 percent and so it 1166 00:45:59,090 --> 00:45:57,270 comes down to a game of chicken who's 1167 00:46:00,470 --> 00:45:59,100 gonna put the cards down first and I'll 1168 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:00,480 give you an example of how that worked 1169 00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:05,370 one of the people who helped brief Bill 1170 00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:09,330 Clinton's science advisor was Scott 1171 00:46:14,810 --> 00:46:11,370 Jones now Scott Jones worked as an 1172 00:46:16,820 --> 00:46:14,820 advisor on the cat on the staff of 1173 00:46:20,090 --> 00:46:16,830 Claiborne Pell who was the head of 1174 00:46:22,820 --> 00:46:20,100 foreign Foreign Relations top ranking 1175 00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:22,830 senator in the United States and he 1176 00:46:27,170 --> 00:46:25,410 tells the story many times he's told in 1177 00:46:28,700 --> 00:46:27,180 probably but he told me publicly or 1178 00:46:30,590 --> 00:46:28,710 privately he told me two story about 1179 00:46:33,110 --> 00:46:30,600 going to the Russians and he would go to 1180 00:46:34,340 --> 00:46:33,120 these different countries and on behalf 1181 00:46:36,650 --> 00:46:34,350 of Claiborne Pell because Claiborne 1182 00:46:38,240 --> 00:46:36,660 Powell wasn't so much into UFOs he was 1183 00:46:41,030 --> 00:46:38,250 into paranormal phenomena psychic 1184 00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:41,040 phenomena all this kind of stuff and so 1185 00:46:44,540 --> 00:46:42,210 he would go to these different countries 1186 00:46:46,010 --> 00:46:44,550 and and he told me that he had at one 1187 00:46:47,630 --> 00:46:46,020 point was negotiating with the Russians 1188 00:46:49,519 --> 00:46:47,640 for a piece of 1189 00:46:50,930 --> 00:46:49,529 alien tissue and it fell through and 1190 00:46:52,549 --> 00:46:50,940 then he talked about going to the 1191 00:46:56,089 --> 00:46:52,559 Chinese he tells the story goes to the 1192 00:46:57,289 --> 00:46:56,099 Chinese and because he's the way are the 1193 00:46:59,719 --> 00:46:57,299 American government works is you have 1194 00:47:01,609 --> 00:46:59,729 you know these these different branches 1195 00:47:03,499 --> 00:47:01,619 of government and the Chinese didn't 1196 00:47:04,729 --> 00:47:03,509 understand this in China there was only 1197 00:47:05,660 --> 00:47:04,739 one branch of government you really 1198 00:47:07,039 --> 00:47:05,670 record for the government you're not 1199 00:47:08,359 --> 00:47:07,049 working for the government so they said 1200 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:08,369 to him they said well what does the 1201 00:47:10,849 --> 00:47:09,690 government do what is the American 1202 00:47:13,099 --> 00:47:10,859 position and he said well I really don't 1203 00:47:14,359 --> 00:47:13,109 know I'm working for Claiborne Pell it's 1204 00:47:15,589 --> 00:47:14,369 not the government and they said why 1205 00:47:17,059 --> 00:47:15,599 you're working for the government no I'm 1206 00:47:18,380 --> 00:47:17,069 not remember come work for Claiborne 1207 00:47:20,209 --> 00:47:18,390 Pell and they couldn't get this through 1208 00:47:22,370 --> 00:47:20,219 their head so he asked and so he's 1209 00:47:25,969 --> 00:47:22,380 dealing with high-level officials like 1210 00:47:28,489 --> 00:47:25,979 people right in the top echelon of power 1211 00:47:30,559 --> 00:47:28,499 in China and because everybody works for 1212 00:47:32,959 --> 00:47:30,569 the government there and he says okay 1213 00:47:35,839 --> 00:47:32,969 why don't you disclose why don't you 1214 00:47:38,150 --> 00:47:35,849 beat the Americans to it and the answer 1215 00:47:39,709 --> 00:47:38,160 according to Scott Jones the Chinese 1216 00:47:42,019 --> 00:47:39,719 looked at him and said when the 1217 00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:42,029 Americans disclose will be a close 1218 00:47:45,739 --> 00:47:43,890 second and that's what I think it comes 1219 00:47:48,469 --> 00:47:45,749 down to is the thing is everybody wants 1220 00:47:50,890 --> 00:47:48,479 everybody else to disclose before before 1221 00:47:52,849 --> 00:47:50,900 they do because it's a game of 1222 00:47:54,499 --> 00:47:52,859 technology what do you what is the other 1223 00:47:55,789 --> 00:47:54,509 people know and everybody hides their 1224 00:47:57,559 --> 00:47:55,799 stuff and then you have these situations 1225 00:47:59,989 --> 00:47:57,569 as I said countries that get controlled 1226 00:48:02,089 --> 00:47:59,999 there's a story I tell I did the the 1227 00:48:07,069 --> 00:48:02,099 Clinton book on UFOs and one of the 1228 00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:07,079 stories I tell is about secretary his 1229 00:48:16,660 --> 00:48:10,729 name's gonna scam his secretary of state 1230 00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:16,670 under Clinton goes to Virginia Virginia 1231 00:48:21,709 --> 00:48:19,890 Brazil he goes to Brazil a couple of 1232 00:48:23,390 --> 00:48:21,719 weeks after the the Virginia crash now 1233 00:48:25,009 --> 00:48:23,400 this is where the crash is and they've 1234 00:48:26,390 --> 00:48:25,019 got these live aliens and all this kind 1235 00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:26,400 of stuff and there's all these rumored 1236 00:48:31,339 --> 00:48:29,130 reports that the American NASA and 1237 00:48:31,969 --> 00:48:31,349 American officials suddenly show up in 1238 00:48:34,329 --> 00:48:31,979 the country 1239 00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:34,339 they to get the craft and the bodies and 1240 00:48:39,499 --> 00:48:37,650 the story from the Brazilians that's 1241 00:48:42,589 --> 00:48:39,509 always been the story is that this is 1242 00:48:44,529 --> 00:48:42,599 what happened and that this Christopher 1243 00:48:47,749 --> 00:48:44,539 weren't Christopher a Warren Christopher 1244 00:48:49,969 --> 00:48:47,759 Nolan Albright but yeah okay yeah so 1245 00:48:52,999 --> 00:48:49,979 when Christopher appears a couple of 1246 00:48:55,459 --> 00:48:53,009 weeks after and the head of NASA appears 1247 00:48:57,380 --> 00:48:55,469 a couple of weeks after on as you know 1248 00:48:59,209 --> 00:48:57,390 they've got other sort of excuses why 1249 00:49:01,339 --> 00:48:59,219 they're there but they suddenly appear 1250 00:49:03,859 --> 00:49:01,349 and the Brazilian store 1251 00:49:06,829 --> 00:49:03,869 is always that the negotiation was that 1252 00:49:08,089 --> 00:49:06,839 they would get you know support from the 1253 00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:08,099 United States if they handed over the 1254 00:49:13,700 --> 00:49:10,650 craft and and the beings and the fact 1255 00:49:16,009 --> 00:49:13,710 that they would put a somebody on the 1256 00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:16,019 Space Shuttle and sure enough that's one 1257 00:49:18,109 --> 00:49:16,890 of the things to happen they put a 1258 00:49:19,940 --> 00:49:18,119 Brazilian on the space shuttle 1259 00:49:21,349 --> 00:49:19,950 so whether the Brazilians are wrong but 1260 00:49:22,249 --> 00:49:21,359 if you listen to the Brazilian 1261 00:49:24,349 --> 00:49:22,259 researchers they will maintain 1262 00:49:26,210 --> 00:49:24,359 absolutely that there was negotiation 1263 00:49:27,829 --> 00:49:26,220 that the Americans moved in there 1264 00:49:31,460 --> 00:49:27,839 immediately the same as there was a 1265 00:49:33,559 --> 00:49:31,470 crash in 1978 on the Bolivian border 1266 00:49:35,210 --> 00:49:33,569 that I bought Pratt was doing with the 1267 00:49:37,130 --> 00:49:35,220 national enquirer and there was the same 1268 00:49:38,809 --> 00:49:37,140 stories about first telling me because I 1269 00:49:41,059 --> 00:49:38,819 was active that time with with the 1270 00:49:43,339 --> 00:49:41,069 National Enquirer that the Americans 1271 00:49:46,579 --> 00:49:43,349 appeared there right away so you have 1272 00:49:48,319 --> 00:49:46,589 you know you can give them financial 1273 00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:48,329 thing these countries need this kind of 1274 00:49:51,410 --> 00:49:50,130 stuff or your American support you can 1275 00:49:52,700 --> 00:49:51,420 offer them all this kind of stuff in 1276 00:49:54,289 --> 00:49:52,710 exchange for this kind of stuff so I 1277 00:49:55,700 --> 00:49:54,299 think you have these hemispheres with 1278 00:49:57,739 --> 00:49:55,710 the Chinese control a lot of countries 1279 00:49:59,749 --> 00:49:57,749 to control this material the Russians 1280 00:50:01,309 --> 00:49:59,759 control a lot of material and the the 1281 00:50:02,269 --> 00:50:01,319 Americans control a lot of the material 1282 00:50:03,799 --> 00:50:02,279 Wow 1283 00:50:06,769 --> 00:50:03,809 you know I have a bunch of questions 1284 00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:06,779 that came in from email this one I had 1285 00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:08,130 to cut down a little bit you know I came 1286 00:50:12,620 --> 00:50:10,650 in from Kerry he wanted to know do you 1287 00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:12,630 think Department depending on which 1288 00:50:19,059 --> 00:50:15,690 person is in office at the time by way 1289 00:50:21,799 --> 00:50:19,069 of his or possibly the future her 1290 00:50:25,489 --> 00:50:21,809 character limits what information they 1291 00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:25,499 are get told about UFOs no I used to 1292 00:50:28,910 --> 00:50:27,210 believe that I used to I used to lecture 1293 00:50:30,319 --> 00:50:28,920 and actually on my website if most of 1294 00:50:31,969 --> 00:50:30,329 stuff I'm more Osage now is wrong 1295 00:50:34,370 --> 00:50:31,979 because I said you know the president 1296 00:50:36,349 --> 00:50:34,380 doesn't know I said you know I used to 1297 00:50:38,329 --> 00:50:36,359 tell the story that the Democrats were 1298 00:50:40,099 --> 00:50:38,339 were not told and the Republicans were 1299 00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:40,109 told because the Republicans have a you 1300 00:50:45,079 --> 00:50:42,450 know a closer tie to the to the military 1301 00:50:47,269 --> 00:50:45,089 and I know I no longer believe that and 1302 00:50:49,039 --> 00:50:47,279 I have in my book I put it in appendix 1303 00:50:50,420 --> 00:50:49,049 where I I say well if you believe that 1304 00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:50,430 certain presidents have told certain 1305 00:50:54,559 --> 00:50:51,930 things then you got to start explaining 1306 00:50:58,549 --> 00:50:54,569 this and I I go to the the Adamski story 1307 00:51:00,920 --> 00:50:58,559 that that Kennedy was given access to 1308 00:51:02,359 --> 00:51:00,930 the aliens I tell the story that Tim 1309 00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:02,369 good tells and Tim gives a pretty 1310 00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:04,890 reliable source that he talked to the 1311 00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:08,130 head of Air Force One about Kennedy 1312 00:51:13,980 --> 00:51:11,290 being flown to Florida to see bodies and 1313 00:51:17,580 --> 00:51:13,990 Jagr and nixon showing jackie gleason 1314 00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:17,590 the body nixon having alien photographs 1315 00:51:25,170 --> 00:51:20,530 in his filing cabinet Jimmy Carter 1316 00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:25,180 telling Shirley MacLaine yes there were 1317 00:51:28,140 --> 00:51:27,010 occupants why should we be the only 1318 00:51:34,020 --> 00:51:28,150 people in the universe 1319 00:51:36,240 --> 00:51:34,030 I wanted to son would what it called it 1320 00:51:38,250 --> 00:51:36,250 I wanted to expose it to the people to 1321 00:51:40,140 --> 00:51:38,260 see how they would react but I couldn't 1322 00:51:41,310 --> 00:51:40,150 and wouldn't and so you have all these 1323 00:51:46,590 --> 00:51:41,320 different things were almost every 1324 00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:46,600 president or secret stuff where I had a 1325 00:51:49,950 --> 00:51:48,490 guy phone me one time and say if you got 1326 00:51:51,510 --> 00:51:49,960 Jimmy Carter's phone number and I said I 1327 00:51:53,460 --> 00:51:51,520 mean I got Jimmy Carter's phone this is 1328 00:51:55,349 --> 00:51:53,470 a high-level guy that's it's connected 1329 00:51:57,270 --> 00:51:55,359 to I don't want to say through his 1330 00:51:58,980 --> 00:51:57,280 scientists is but you know the 1331 00:52:02,220 --> 00:51:58,990 scientists and he works for him and he 1332 00:52:03,420 --> 00:52:02,230 said because the whole story about the 1333 00:52:04,500 --> 00:52:03,430 Holloman Air Force Base film they were 1334 00:52:06,870 --> 00:52:04,510 trying to track down the Holloman Air 1335 00:52:08,849 --> 00:52:06,880 Force Base film and I was very much 1336 00:52:10,500 --> 00:52:08,859 involved in that story so he said we got 1337 00:52:12,090 --> 00:52:10,510 Jimmy Carter's phone number because 1338 00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:12,100 there was a story that Jimmy Carter one 1339 00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:14,890 of his Secret Service guys had said that 1340 00:52:18,810 --> 00:52:16,690 part of the briefing he was in the 1341 00:52:21,210 --> 00:52:18,820 briefing for Carter and he was shown a 1342 00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:21,220 15-minute color film of a landing at 1343 00:52:28,170 --> 00:52:23,490 Holloman Air Force Base and so this 1344 00:52:29,250 --> 00:52:28,180 scientist PhD astrophysicists guy phones 1345 00:52:30,450 --> 00:52:29,260 me up and says you got Jimmy Carter's 1346 00:52:31,830 --> 00:52:30,460 phone number and I said well no I'm a 1347 00:52:33,030 --> 00:52:31,840 Canadian why would I have Jimmy Carter's 1348 00:52:34,380 --> 00:52:33,040 warned about Jimmy Carter's phone number 1349 00:52:35,430 --> 00:52:34,390 and they see I said well what do you 1350 00:52:37,670 --> 00:52:35,440 want his phone number for he said well I 1351 00:52:39,990 --> 00:52:37,680 just talked to Bush and I talked to I 1352 00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:40,000 talked to Bush and I talked to Ford 1353 00:52:42,810 --> 00:52:41,890 about the Holloman Air Force Base film 1354 00:52:45,060 --> 00:52:42,820 and of course the Holloman Air Force 1355 00:52:47,550 --> 00:52:45,070 Base film depending whether you listen 1356 00:52:49,109 --> 00:52:47,560 to counterintelligence or the the guys 1357 00:52:52,550 --> 00:52:49,119 who actually got the original material 1358 00:52:54,690 --> 00:52:52,560 was that either in 1971 or in 1964 1359 00:52:57,960 --> 00:52:54,700 aliens land at Holloman Air Force Base 1360 00:52:59,820 --> 00:52:57,970 film Holloman Air Force Base the craft 1361 00:53:01,290 --> 00:52:59,830 landed these aliens got out there was an 1362 00:53:02,970 --> 00:53:01,300 interaction the craft was put in a 1363 00:53:05,550 --> 00:53:02,980 hangar and they had the number of the 1364 00:53:06,750 --> 00:53:05,560 hangar and the address on the base and 1365 00:53:08,190 --> 00:53:06,760 all this kind of stuff and so what 1366 00:53:10,650 --> 00:53:08,200 they're trying to do is confirm this 1367 00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:10,660 story and what he told me through he 1368 00:53:14,700 --> 00:53:13,330 they all belonged to this foreign 1369 00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:14,710 intelligence agent and foreign 1370 00:53:18,240 --> 00:53:16,330 intelligence group and it's like ember 1371 00:53:19,950 --> 00:53:18,250 at the name of the group is but that's 1372 00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:19,960 how he got two of these people 1373 00:53:25,070 --> 00:53:23,530 he's if Ford and and Bush Senior both 1374 00:53:26,750 --> 00:53:25,080 belong to this group so he 1375 00:53:28,910 --> 00:53:26,760 he got ahold of them and he asked for it 1376 00:53:31,850 --> 00:53:28,920 he said did you did you see the Holloman 1377 00:53:35,030 --> 00:53:31,860 Air Force Base film during your briefing 1378 00:53:36,350 --> 00:53:35,040 and Ford says yes I saw it and he said 1379 00:53:37,730 --> 00:53:36,360 well was it an eight twelve because 1380 00:53:39,470 --> 00:53:37,740 there's all this stuff like Coleman and 1381 00:53:42,020 --> 00:53:39,480 people putting out I was in 812 there 1382 00:53:43,910 --> 00:53:42,030 was a psychological film that was to 1383 00:53:45,350 --> 00:53:43,920 test the the troops and stuff I got so 1384 00:53:48,230 --> 00:53:45,360 he asked him you says it was an aid talk 1385 00:53:50,030 --> 00:53:48,240 no was it a psychological film no and he 1386 00:53:51,650 --> 00:53:50,040 said well when was the briefing and did 1387 00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:51,660 a briefing I say is always the key thing 1388 00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:53,490 he said to Ford when was the briefing 1389 00:53:59,300 --> 00:53:56,090 and breathe he said I'm not going there 1390 00:54:00,590 --> 00:53:59,310 don't even bother to ask because if you 1391 00:54:01,730 --> 00:54:00,600 get the briefing you get the date of the 1392 00:54:02,870 --> 00:54:01,740 briefing and who was in the briefing 1393 00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:02,880 then you can start to dig for the 1394 00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:04,410 documents he said I'm not even to go 1395 00:54:08,630 --> 00:54:06,570 there he asked Bush Senior did you see 1396 00:54:10,910 --> 00:54:08,640 the briefing they are the Holloman Air 1397 00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:10,920 Force Base film he said yes I saw it but 1398 00:54:15,020 --> 00:54:12,210 not as my president not in my 1399 00:54:17,030 --> 00:54:15,030 presidential briefing I saw it as CIA 1400 00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:17,040 director so you have these stories and I 1401 00:54:20,870 --> 00:54:18,690 have an appendix that shows all these 1402 00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:20,880 different things and it's again it comes 1403 00:54:25,010 --> 00:54:22,290 down to this constitutional argument 1404 00:54:26,510 --> 00:54:25,020 that you can say you got to realize how 1405 00:54:28,310 --> 00:54:26,520 government works there's lots and lots 1406 00:54:30,530 --> 00:54:28,320 and lots of people in the government and 1407 00:54:32,660 --> 00:54:30,540 they're all honest people who are just 1408 00:54:34,250 --> 00:54:32,670 trying to they may be deluded totally 1409 00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:34,260 deluded but but they actually think 1410 00:54:37,310 --> 00:54:35,610 they're saving the world and they're all 1411 00:54:39,950 --> 00:54:37,320 trying to do this sort of stop so if you 1412 00:54:42,370 --> 00:54:39,960 have for example from the Eisenhower 1413 00:54:44,510 --> 00:54:42,380 going to the the Kennedy administration 1414 00:54:46,130 --> 00:54:44,520 when you have the UFO thing you've got a 1415 00:54:48,860 --> 00:54:46,140 lot of people involved in this whole 1416 00:54:50,240 --> 00:54:48,870 situation in NSA and you know 1417 00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:50,250 intelligence or all these different 1418 00:54:54,170 --> 00:54:52,290 things how do you suddenly turn all 1419 00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:54,180 these people and say okay our 1420 00:54:57,860 --> 00:54:56,130 administration is leaving all you people 1421 00:54:59,720 --> 00:54:57,870 are no longer allowed to tell the next 1422 00:55:02,570 --> 00:54:59,730 president what's going on it is not that 1423 00:55:04,190 --> 00:55:02,580 easy to to stop this ball this thing 1424 00:55:05,930 --> 00:55:04,200 from rolling you can see in the American 1425 00:55:08,300 --> 00:55:05,940 government that once something gets into 1426 00:55:09,350 --> 00:55:08,310 policy once things start rolling there's 1427 00:55:11,930 --> 00:55:09,360 no way you're going to turn it around 1428 00:55:14,720 --> 00:55:11,940 it's like set in stone and that's what 1429 00:55:16,130 --> 00:55:14,730 happens is that everybody is gonna say 1430 00:55:18,230 --> 00:55:16,140 the same thing that the next president 1431 00:55:19,430 --> 00:55:18,240 needs to know as much as possible and we 1432 00:55:21,380 --> 00:55:19,440 give him as much material as possible 1433 00:55:22,970 --> 00:55:21,390 and they all believe that the president 1434 00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:22,980 is this constitutional he's like a 1435 00:55:28,010 --> 00:55:26,610 monarch he rules the world we can't you 1436 00:55:29,870 --> 00:55:28,020 know argue with the president he can 1437 00:55:31,250 --> 00:55:29,880 drop the nuclear bombs if he wants he 1438 00:55:32,990 --> 00:55:31,260 can do whatever he's got this ultimate 1439 00:55:34,550 --> 00:55:33,000 power and everybody salutes to the 1440 00:55:36,170 --> 00:55:34,560 president because if you say you're the 1441 00:55:37,610 --> 00:55:36,180 military and you decide going from the 1442 00:55:39,270 --> 00:55:37,620 Eisenhower administration of the KE 1443 00:55:41,010 --> 00:55:39,280 administration you just 1444 00:55:42,660 --> 00:55:41,020 I'm not gonna tell the president and 1445 00:55:44,339 --> 00:55:42,670 then he calls you in and says okay 1446 00:55:45,660 --> 00:55:44,349 what's the what's the what's the story 1447 00:55:48,599 --> 00:55:45,670 and you say you don't have the need to 1448 00:55:51,630 --> 00:55:48,609 know mr. president he says okay thank 1449 00:55:54,270 --> 00:55:51,640 you very much the guy leaves you phoned 1450 00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:54,280 the head of his boss and you say okay I 1451 00:55:57,390 --> 00:55:55,930 want his resignation on my desk at nine 1452 00:55:59,069 --> 00:55:57,400 o'clock tomorrow morning and I want his 1453 00:56:00,420 --> 00:55:59,079 boss in here the president can fire 1454 00:56:02,250 --> 00:56:00,430 anybody wants the president does not 1455 00:56:03,720 --> 00:56:02,260 even have a security clearance which is 1456 00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:03,730 one of the biggest things people make a 1457 00:56:08,190 --> 00:56:05,890 mistake about people think that the 1458 00:56:09,900 --> 00:56:08,200 security thing is run by law I didn't 1459 00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:09,910 realize this until in the last year I 1460 00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:11,770 didn't realize this it's not run by law 1461 00:56:17,099 --> 00:56:13,930 there was no laws to run this thing all 1462 00:56:19,559 --> 00:56:17,109 security all the classifications all the 1463 00:56:22,559 --> 00:56:19,569 need to knows all the the codewords 1464 00:56:24,390 --> 00:56:22,569 all that is run out of the executive 1465 00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:24,400 office of the president the president is 1466 00:56:29,910 --> 00:56:27,490 in charge of all security all clearances 1467 00:56:32,490 --> 00:56:29,920 everything is run you can take a look it 1468 00:56:34,349 --> 00:56:32,500 you take a look at the eyes Roosevelt 1469 00:56:37,049 --> 00:56:34,359 was the first 1940 he created 1470 00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:37,059 confidential and secret Truman added 1471 00:56:43,079 --> 00:56:41,410 top-secret Eisenhower added clearances 1472 00:56:46,130 --> 00:56:43,089 for national security information and 1473 00:56:49,170 --> 00:56:46,140 they built on this and even Bill Clinton 1474 00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:49,180 you take 1993 I think all the contractor 1475 00:56:53,309 --> 00:56:50,650 stuff that was under Bill Clinton that 1476 00:56:55,170 --> 00:56:53,319 all the the the contractors security 1477 00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:55,180 type stuff so if you're if you've got a 1478 00:56:58,410 --> 00:56:57,010 clearance it's run out of the executive 1479 00:56:59,760 --> 00:56:58,420 office of the president and that when 1480 00:57:01,200 --> 00:56:59,770 you start going back you start to see 1481 00:57:03,210 --> 00:57:01,210 how this thing all fits together that 1482 00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:03,220 the original mj-12 documents that's very 1483 00:57:08,430 --> 00:57:06,010 controversial in there it says it's a 1484 00:57:09,539 --> 00:57:08,440 classified executive order which means 1485 00:57:12,599 --> 00:57:09,549 it's run out of the president is the 1486 00:57:13,770 --> 00:57:12,609 president so you can't say if you you 1487 00:57:15,539 --> 00:57:13,780 hear these people who say oh I've got a 1488 00:57:17,819 --> 00:57:15,549 clearance 15 levels above the president 1489 00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:17,829 you tell them you're full of it man the 1490 00:57:20,970 --> 00:57:18,970 president doesn't have a security 1491 00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:20,980 clearance you can look you can google 1492 00:57:25,710 --> 00:57:23,170 search you can it will be confirmed by 1493 00:57:28,230 --> 00:57:25,720 all the the different people who know 1494 00:57:29,220 --> 00:57:28,240 this stuff the President does not have a 1495 00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:29,230 security clearance 1496 00:57:32,490 --> 00:57:30,730 none whatsoever you can see whatever he 1497 00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:32,500 wants you can look at where everybody 1498 00:57:36,780 --> 00:57:34,210 else is under him and has the security 1499 00:57:39,059 --> 00:57:36,790 clearance so the president has to know 1500 00:57:41,940 --> 00:57:39,069 he has to be in charge of this whole 1501 00:57:43,230 --> 00:57:41,950 thing and the idea is that that that 1502 00:57:45,420 --> 00:57:43,240 some presidents are told and some 1503 00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:45,430 president it's nice and theory but it 1504 00:57:48,690 --> 00:57:46,930 doesn't you start looking at it it does 1505 00:57:50,670 --> 00:57:48,700 make any sense whatsoever that you can 1506 00:57:52,470 --> 00:57:50,680 suddenly cut them out because if you can 1507 00:57:53,940 --> 00:57:52,480 cut the president out you 1508 00:57:55,290 --> 00:57:53,950 mr. president you ever need to know for 1509 00:57:56,910 --> 00:57:55,300 this and the prison stupid enough to go 1510 00:57:58,140 --> 00:57:56,920 along with that well then you say well 1511 00:57:59,760 --> 00:57:58,150 he doesn't have a need to know about 1512 00:58:00,810 --> 00:57:59,770 what's going on in Afghanistan he 1513 00:58:02,700 --> 00:58:00,820 doesn't have a need to know about this 1514 00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:02,710 I'm gonna or they say for example 1515 00:58:06,030 --> 00:58:04,090 they'll say oh the president we want to 1516 00:58:06,930 --> 00:58:06,040 protect the president so we we tell them 1517 00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:06,940 we're not gonna tell you mr. president 1518 00:58:10,620 --> 00:58:08,890 cuz we want to protect you then they say 1519 00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:10,630 okay well we don't want them to know 1520 00:58:14,580 --> 00:58:12,970 about the Iraq war we don't know about 1521 00:58:16,590 --> 00:58:14,590 the economy we don't and you could 1522 00:58:16,980 --> 00:58:16,600 protect the president and not tell him 1523 00:58:19,050 --> 00:58:16,990 anything 1524 00:58:20,580 --> 00:58:19,060 and then he's totally protected that's a 1525 00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:20,590 whole deal the buck stops at the 1526 00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:23,170 president the president is is the guy 1527 00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:25,090 who has to take responsibility for 1528 00:58:29,580 --> 00:58:27,130 everything and anything that happens 1529 00:58:30,810 --> 00:58:29,590 under him you can say well the president 1530 00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:30,820 didn't know but he's still gonna go down 1531 00:58:34,650 --> 00:58:33,490 if you suddenly say okay was the CIA it 1532 00:58:36,060 --> 00:58:34,660 was running the thing and the president 1533 00:58:38,310 --> 00:58:36,070 didn't know the president still going 1534 00:58:39,870 --> 00:58:38,320 down he's still in Constitution he's 1535 00:58:43,470 --> 00:58:39,880 still the guy who's actually responsible 1536 00:58:45,060 --> 00:58:43,480 for everything well okay just to let the 1537 00:58:47,670 --> 00:58:45,070 listener know in our to we're going to 1538 00:58:50,810 --> 00:58:47,680 get into you're gonna be talking about 1539 00:58:54,090 --> 00:58:50,820 the key to understanding the UFO mystery 1540 00:58:56,220 --> 00:58:54,100 the role of consciousness and why you 1541 00:58:59,190 --> 00:58:56,230 don't follow UFO reports all kinds of 1542 00:59:03,260 --> 00:58:59,200 things like that but so that kind of 1543 00:59:05,490 --> 00:59:03,270 wraps it up for our one of this show and 1544 00:59:07,620 --> 00:59:05,500 we're not going into a break or anything 1545 00:59:11,340 --> 00:59:07,630 but I just thought I would let you know 1546 00:59:14,250 --> 00:59:11,350 that and let's see we have a bunch of 1547 00:59:16,020 --> 00:59:14,260 questions here and one of them is what 1548 00:59:19,620 --> 00:59:16,030 can you tell us about the continuity of 1549 00:59:22,050 --> 00:59:19,630 government operation at Mount weather 1550 00:59:24,690 --> 00:59:22,060 and if there seems to be any connection 1551 00:59:26,070 --> 00:59:24,700 between that and UFOs okay that that's 1552 00:59:28,020 --> 00:59:26,080 an extremely important thing and that 1553 00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:28,030 goes to this the same idea does the 1554 00:59:35,030 --> 00:59:30,850 president know this goes back an article 1555 00:59:38,130 --> 00:59:35,040 I've wrote it's on my I think it's on my 1556 00:59:41,310 --> 00:59:38,140 my blog site if you google searched 1557 00:59:43,260 --> 00:59:41,320 White House UFO and blog it will pop up 1558 00:59:45,330 --> 00:59:43,270 my blog site the article is there it got 1559 00:59:47,250 --> 00:59:45,340 huge hits huge number of people wrote 1560 00:59:49,890 --> 00:59:47,260 this thing and what it comes from is a 1561 00:59:52,230 --> 00:59:49,900 story was told by Paul Hellyer a couple 1562 00:59:53,490 --> 00:59:52,240 months back and I've known Paul longer 1563 00:59:56,190 --> 00:59:53,500 than name by in the UFO field I was 1564 00:59:58,109 --> 00:59:56,200 chasing Paul around in 1970s and Paul 1565 01:00:00,330 --> 00:59:58,119 tells this story I'm sitting we're at a 1566 01:00:03,750 --> 01:00:00,340 you had the citizens hearing in the 1567 01:00:05,770 --> 01:00:03,760 United States in Canada we ran Victor be 1568 01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:05,780 Gianni set up a 1569 01:00:10,090 --> 01:00:08,090 similar type thing instead of senators 1570 01:00:14,590 --> 01:00:10,100 and congressmen they had reporters and 1571 01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:14,600 people doing PhDs in University and it 1572 01:00:18,070 --> 01:00:16,010 was a panel so there's a panel of us 1573 01:00:21,010 --> 01:00:18,080 there was Dolan and myself and Stanton 1574 01:00:22,210 --> 01:00:21,020 Friedman and Paul Hellyer and then all 1575 01:00:23,500 --> 01:00:22,220 these reporters in the other side they 1576 01:00:25,090 --> 01:00:23,510 would ask these questions and there was 1577 01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:25,100 it was jammed I don't how many people 1578 01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:26,690 400 people in the room in piles of 1579 01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:28,730 cameras and it was it was really big way 1580 01:00:33,010 --> 01:00:31,250 bigger than citizens hearing and so 1581 01:00:35,860 --> 01:00:33,020 anyway I'm sitting right beside Paul 1582 01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:35,870 Hellyer and I know a few interesting 1583 01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:37,130 stories I can tell about Paul Hellyer 1584 01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:38,810 and what what he knew and what he didn't 1585 01:00:43,270 --> 01:00:40,610 know but Paul Hellyer starts telling 1586 01:00:44,830 --> 01:00:43,280 this story and first of all they asked 1587 01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:44,840 him they say well who's who's briefed in 1588 01:00:48,550 --> 01:00:46,850 Canada who do you think knows and he 1589 01:00:50,290 --> 01:00:48,560 said the head of the Privy Council and 1590 01:00:51,130 --> 01:00:50,300 he's mentioning but he's guessing he's 1591 01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:51,140 saying well I think you know that 1592 01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:52,610 probably these people and whatever and 1593 01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:54,530 then later on he's asked another 1594 01:00:58,120 --> 01:00:56,090 question and that's when he adds this 1595 01:01:01,960 --> 01:00:58,130 thing he says well I I like to add one 1596 01:01:04,930 --> 01:01:01,970 that gets the briefing and he said he 1597 01:01:06,070 --> 01:01:04,940 tells the story I'm I get a phone call 1598 01:01:08,380 --> 01:01:06,080 from an Air Force buddy I think was an 1599 01:01:12,010 --> 01:01:08,390 Air Force buddy of his and this guy says 1600 01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:12,020 the head of the former head of emergency 1601 01:01:17,860 --> 01:01:15,890 measure Emergency Management in Canada 1602 01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:17,870 is dying of Lou Gehrig's disease 1603 01:01:23,890 --> 01:01:21,050 he's got ALS and he's got something he 1604 01:01:26,290 --> 01:01:23,900 wants to get off his chest about UFOs 1605 01:01:28,150 --> 01:01:26,300 and and he's decided you're the guy he 1606 01:01:30,580 --> 01:01:28,160 wants to tell it to so Paul says okay 1607 01:01:32,170 --> 01:01:30,590 fine so Paul doesn't go then the Air 1608 01:01:34,330 --> 01:01:32,180 Force guy phones him back again he says 1609 01:01:35,650 --> 01:01:34,340 he's about to go off the cliff you 1610 01:01:39,100 --> 01:01:35,660 better you better get you better talk to 1611 01:01:42,310 --> 01:01:39,110 him so Paul phones this guy up and the 1612 01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:42,320 guy says I just want to let you know I 1613 01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:45,050 was taken to Langley and I was given a 1614 01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:47,570 briefing and this thing's for real I was 1615 01:01:52,390 --> 01:01:49,730 given a briefing and I was made to sign 1616 01:01:56,230 --> 01:01:52,400 all these papers and I was taken to area 1617 01:01:58,180 --> 01:01:56,240 51 and I was I actually got to go inside 1618 01:02:01,270 --> 01:01:58,190 a craft I walked around inside a craft 1619 01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:01,280 and he said I I'm dying I swore I want 1620 01:02:05,370 --> 01:02:03,650 this on the record and so Paul tells the 1621 01:02:08,620 --> 01:02:05,380 story and he doesn't say who the guy is 1622 01:02:11,530 --> 01:02:08,630 but it's very important story is the 1623 01:02:14,860 --> 01:02:11,540 fact that if the head of emergency 1624 01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:14,870 management in Canada not even the United 1625 01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:17,450 States like some foreign power if the 1626 01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:19,490 CIA is bringing in the head of a 1627 01:02:24,550 --> 01:02:21,410 emergency management in Canada and 1628 01:02:26,950 --> 01:02:24,560 they're telling him what's going on it 1629 01:02:28,420 --> 01:02:26,960 makes no sense to say they're telling 1630 01:02:29,830 --> 01:02:28,430 Kathak Canadians what's going on but 1631 01:02:30,490 --> 01:02:29,840 they're not telling the president this 1632 01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:30,500 is nuts 1633 01:02:35,020 --> 01:02:32,930 the only reason this this just all fits 1634 01:02:38,650 --> 01:02:35,030 together is that the head of emergency 1635 01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:38,660 management is the guy who would have to 1636 01:02:41,650 --> 01:02:40,130 know and that's what it comes down to 1637 01:02:43,990 --> 01:02:41,660 when you look at this thing you say who 1638 01:02:45,700 --> 01:02:44,000 really needs to know if you don't need 1639 01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:45,710 to know they don't tell you but if 1640 01:02:50,140 --> 01:02:46,970 you're the head of Emergency Management 1641 01:02:52,060 --> 01:02:50,150 you need to know because if the thing 1642 01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:52,070 goes south if something crashes and you 1643 01:02:56,380 --> 01:02:54,770 can't control the story if you're gonna 1644 01:02:59,680 --> 01:02:56,390 do a disclosure thing and you're going 1645 01:03:01,630 --> 01:02:59,690 to suddenly say it's for real a lot of 1646 01:03:03,070 --> 01:03:01,640 things are gonna go south I wrote an 1647 01:03:04,540 --> 01:03:03,080 article called the sixty-four reasons 1648 01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:04,550 that decided not to tell you the truth 1649 01:03:07,930 --> 01:03:06,170 it's on my website it's called something 1650 01:03:09,850 --> 01:03:07,940 else but it's in the article section and 1651 01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:09,860 I go through and I say if you Rock you 1652 01:03:13,540 --> 01:03:11,450 realize what's going on and you realize 1653 01:03:15,220 --> 01:03:13,550 the briefing you do exactly what they're 1654 01:03:18,130 --> 01:03:15,230 doing because there's a lot of stuff 1655 01:03:20,530 --> 01:03:18,140 that can really get ugly and Steven 1656 01:03:22,359 --> 01:03:20,540 Greer started the one and it's true the 1657 01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:22,369 stock market could meltdown 1658 01:03:26,530 --> 01:03:24,410 you do not need a hundred percent of 1659 01:03:29,710 --> 01:03:26,540 people to panic you need a couple of 1660 01:03:33,460 --> 01:03:29,720 people with a pile of stock and owning 1661 01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:33,470 oil stock or something who realize this 1662 01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:35,690 is gonna go and they're going to short 1663 01:03:39,099 --> 01:03:37,850 sell their stock and that stock is gonna 1664 01:03:40,870 --> 01:03:39,109 be a hundred bucks and it's gonna be 1665 01:03:43,180 --> 01:03:40,880 opening a ten and heading for zero and 1666 01:03:45,340 --> 01:03:43,190 once those guys sell everybody else is 1667 01:03:47,260 --> 01:03:45,350 gonna sell now if I'm doing the briefing 1668 01:03:49,630 --> 01:03:47,270 and I say Martin okay this may not 1669 01:03:52,020 --> 01:03:49,640 happen but we don't know for sure this 1670 01:03:55,300 --> 01:03:52,030 may happen and the president goes I 1671 01:03:57,190 --> 01:03:55,310 don't of that I mean well hang on you 1672 01:03:59,230 --> 01:03:57,200 know like let's take this thing over 1673 01:04:00,970 --> 01:03:59,240 because you don't know and it's 1674 01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:00,980 uncertainty and if you're the if you're 1675 01:04:03,670 --> 01:04:02,330 in politics you don't want to do 1676 01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:03,680 anything that's uncertain you want to 1677 01:04:06,370 --> 01:04:05,330 make sure that it's especially to the 1678 01:04:08,710 --> 01:04:06,380 president you want the president look 1679 01:04:09,940 --> 01:04:08,720 like a fool that this thing all starts 1680 01:04:10,599 --> 01:04:09,950 going south there's a lot of things that 1681 01:04:13,180 --> 01:04:10,609 could go wrong 1682 01:04:15,580 --> 01:04:13,190 so emergency management is the guy who 1683 01:04:17,410 --> 01:04:15,590 has to know because things will start to 1684 01:04:18,700 --> 01:04:17,420 go bad I mean you can have riots you 1685 01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:18,710 could have also knows what's gonna 1686 01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:20,930 happen and so they have they have to 1687 01:04:25,750 --> 01:04:23,330 have a plan even if they don't believe 1688 01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:25,760 in UFOs they have to have a plan what if 1689 01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:27,650 aliens do come here we don't believe 1690 01:04:30,820 --> 01:04:28,970 aliens are coming about what happens if 1691 01:04:32,380 --> 01:04:30,830 aliens do come and suddenly land on the 1692 01:04:33,339 --> 01:04:32,390 White House lawn what are we gonna do 1693 01:04:35,170 --> 01:04:33,349 what kind of plan do we got 1694 01:04:36,789 --> 01:04:35,180 but money into the into the banks to 1695 01:04:38,319 --> 01:04:36,799 stop the banks from melting down we got 1696 01:04:40,059 --> 01:04:38,329 to do something with the stuff stock 1697 01:04:42,700 --> 01:04:40,069 market we got I guess the key with the 1698 01:04:44,259 --> 01:04:42,710 stock market is when 9/11 happened we 1699 01:04:45,849 --> 01:04:44,269 shut the stock market down for three or 1700 01:04:47,529 --> 01:04:45,859 four days or whatever it was and the 1701 01:04:49,599 --> 01:04:47,539 only reason I maintain they could open 1702 01:04:50,979 --> 01:04:49,609 the stock market again is because they 1703 01:04:52,660 --> 01:04:50,989 were able to convince the people that 1704 01:04:54,670 --> 01:04:52,670 they were able to do something about it 1705 01:04:56,410 --> 01:04:54,680 and what they said was if anybody stands 1706 01:04:57,789 --> 01:04:56,420 up on a plane and tries to hijack the 1707 01:04:59,559 --> 01:04:57,799 plane we're gonna have a Marshalls on 1708 01:05:01,509 --> 01:04:59,569 the plane and we're gonna shoot him and 1709 01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:01,519 every goes oh okay my they got under 1710 01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:03,170 control they've done something David but 1711 01:05:07,690 --> 01:05:05,690 if it's the UFO thing and if you don't 1712 01:05:08,829 --> 01:05:07,700 have control of this thing what are you 1713 01:05:10,380 --> 01:05:08,839 gonna do are you gonna open the stock 1714 01:05:12,670 --> 01:05:10,390 market again if it starts to melt down 1715 01:05:13,839 --> 01:05:12,680 then what do you do you got to convince 1716 01:05:15,069 --> 01:05:13,849 the people you've got this thing under 1717 01:05:16,749 --> 01:05:15,079 control but they don't have it under 1718 01:05:18,759 --> 01:05:16,759 control the aliens are running the show 1719 01:05:20,529 --> 01:05:18,769 and so that's that's the kind of 1720 01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:20,539 scenario you have to avoid and the 1721 01:05:25,059 --> 01:05:23,690 emergency management guy has to be in 1722 01:05:26,710 --> 01:05:25,069 charge of the thing and I knew this was 1723 01:05:28,539 --> 01:05:26,720 very important when Paul told the story 1724 01:05:30,579 --> 01:05:28,549 I was gone Wow because I had done a 1725 01:05:34,509 --> 01:05:30,589 story if you go to my my presidential 1726 01:05:37,259 --> 01:05:34,519 UFO site I had done a story on Johnson I 1727 01:05:39,579 --> 01:05:37,269 gone to the Johnson administration and I 1728 01:05:41,079 --> 01:05:39,589 look without that all the presidents I 1729 01:05:42,279 --> 01:05:41,089 would do each president I would see 1730 01:05:43,599 --> 01:05:42,289 which crash happened during the 1731 01:05:46,209 --> 01:05:43,609 president where was the president when 1732 01:05:47,890 --> 01:05:46,219 the crash took place who appeared and 1733 01:05:51,069 --> 01:05:47,900 you know at the White House or where it 1734 01:05:54,729 --> 01:05:51,079 was so Johnson had the Kecksburg crash 1735 01:05:57,150 --> 01:05:54,739 in December of 1965 the Kecksburg crash 1736 01:05:59,589 --> 01:05:57,160 occurred so I went to the Johnson 1737 01:06:01,450 --> 01:05:59,599 library and I started looking at all the 1738 01:06:03,309 --> 01:06:01,460 documents his pray that the daily 1739 01:06:05,229 --> 01:06:03,319 schedule where was the president where 1740 01:06:06,370 --> 01:06:05,239 was the secretary defense where was the 1741 01:06:09,099 --> 01:06:06,380 head of NASA and all this kind of stuff 1742 01:06:13,479 --> 01:06:09,109 and what I found out with that was that 1743 01:06:16,450 --> 01:06:13,489 the morning after the crash at the 1744 01:06:19,329 --> 01:06:16,460 Kecksburg the president was at the ranch 1745 01:06:21,999 --> 01:06:19,339 his Austin he was at his vacation ranch 1746 01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:22,009 in Austin recovering from an operation 1747 01:06:25,599 --> 01:06:24,170 or something and the next morning the 1748 01:06:28,420 --> 01:06:25,609 entire Joint Chiefs of Staff showed up 1749 01:06:31,359 --> 01:06:28,430 the head of NASA showed up the governor 1750 01:06:33,450 --> 01:06:31,369 of Pennsylvania showed up the the head 1751 01:06:35,739 --> 01:06:33,460 of Defense Department showed up 1752 01:06:36,789 --> 01:06:35,749 everybody that was anybody that would 1753 01:06:38,529 --> 01:06:36,799 have been involved in that crash 1754 01:06:40,620 --> 01:06:38,539 especially the Nassau guy head of NASA 1755 01:06:43,599 --> 01:06:40,630 they all showed up at the ranch and the 1756 01:06:45,339 --> 01:06:43,609 meeting said Vietnam War meeting but 1757 01:06:47,220 --> 01:06:45,349 they can change those kind of things and 1758 01:06:49,410 --> 01:06:47,230 so I was looking at that whole 1759 01:06:51,150 --> 01:06:49,420 whole thing and the key to this was that 1760 01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:51,160 there was a lot of evidence when I 1761 01:06:55,380 --> 01:06:53,650 started looking at the records around 1762 01:06:57,030 --> 01:06:55,390 the Kecksburg crash and the president 1763 01:07:00,270 --> 01:06:57,040 that showed that the president was 1764 01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:00,280 involved wonder was the day he comes 1765 01:07:04,950 --> 01:07:02,650 back from the ranch when the first 1766 01:07:08,099 --> 01:07:04,960 meetings he has in the White House is 1767 01:07:10,590 --> 01:07:08,109 with the head of FEMA the FEMA is 1768 01:07:13,890 --> 01:07:10,600 emergency management it's the American 1769 01:07:15,780 --> 01:07:13,900 equivalent of the the guy that Paul 1770 01:07:17,910 --> 01:07:15,790 Heller is talking about in Canada so 1771 01:07:19,740 --> 01:07:17,920 when the Kecksburg crash happens he has 1772 01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:19,750 a meeting with the head of FEMA the very 1773 01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:21,490 first meeting has the second meeting or 1774 01:07:25,770 --> 01:07:23,050 whatever but the same day comes back to 1775 01:07:27,450 --> 01:07:25,780 the IOC as his meeting with FEMA the 1776 01:07:29,099 --> 01:07:27,460 other thing I found out when you look at 1777 01:07:31,109 --> 01:07:29,109 the Blue Book files on the Kecksburg 1778 01:07:33,990 --> 01:07:31,119 crash and we would discover this sort of 1779 01:07:36,300 --> 01:07:34,000 bite by accident if you look at the 1780 01:07:37,500 --> 01:07:36,310 files on the Kecksburg crash they have 1781 01:07:40,050 --> 01:07:37,510 another name as they don't opt expires 1782 01:07:43,770 --> 01:07:40,060 another name you have all these these 1783 01:07:47,359 --> 01:07:43,780 reports and stuff and one of them is a 1784 01:07:50,250 --> 01:07:47,369 guy by name of Bourassa and Bourassa 1785 01:07:53,370 --> 01:07:50,260 puts a message on there that there's 1786 01:07:57,150 --> 01:07:53,380 been some metal recovered I think 1787 01:08:00,450 --> 01:07:57,160 Michigan I think and it on in the Blue 1788 01:08:02,340 --> 01:08:00,460 Book file it says Code Blue Grass and I 1789 01:08:03,900 --> 01:08:02,350 never knew what this was until years 1790 01:08:05,790 --> 01:08:03,910 later I started to look when after I 1791 01:08:07,830 --> 01:08:05,800 went came back from the Johnson 1792 01:08:10,380 --> 01:08:07,840 administration I look I find out what 1793 01:08:13,470 --> 01:08:10,390 blue grasses blue grass is Mount weather 1794 01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:13,480 blue grass is the code name for the 1795 01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:15,490 place where the president goes if 1796 01:08:19,979 --> 01:08:17,410 there's a nuclear attack and it's the 1797 01:08:22,140 --> 01:08:19,989 head of FEMA this is the key especially 1798 01:08:24,630 --> 01:08:22,150 in the old days this was the key place 1799 01:08:26,610 --> 01:08:24,640 because what you need is if the 1800 01:08:29,460 --> 01:08:26,620 president goes there you have to have 1801 01:08:32,099 --> 01:08:29,470 all the communication network to deal 1802 01:08:33,660 --> 01:08:32,109 with everybody foreign embassies Joint 1803 01:08:35,430 --> 01:08:33,670 Chiefs of Staff so you have all these 1804 01:08:38,130 --> 01:08:35,440 communications that go everywhere in the 1805 01:08:41,039 --> 01:08:38,140 world and at FEMA and at Mount weather 1806 01:08:42,870 --> 01:08:41,049 you have access to every every agency 1807 01:08:45,749 --> 01:08:42,880 every government agency every foreign 1808 01:08:49,499 --> 01:08:45,759 power and stuff like that so that's why 1809 01:08:50,820 --> 01:08:49,509 it's it's so powerful and Barossa ran 1810 01:08:53,370 --> 01:08:50,830 Mount weather 1811 01:08:55,620 --> 01:08:53,380 so Barossa on the night of the Kecksburg 1812 01:08:56,910 --> 01:08:55,630 crash the guy that's running the Mount 1813 01:08:59,729 --> 01:08:56,920 weather has all the communication 1814 01:09:01,140 --> 01:08:59,739 network is putting this message that the 1815 01:09:03,539 --> 01:09:01,150 day is the 1816 01:09:05,939 --> 01:09:03,549 has been a recovery of metal in Michigan 1817 01:09:08,820 --> 01:09:05,949 and when I saw that then I went now 1818 01:09:10,740 --> 01:09:08,830 looked at Barossa and I this guy ran 1819 01:09:13,289 --> 01:09:10,750 this whole thing for for many many years 1820 01:09:14,220 --> 01:09:13,299 and the other story I knew I had done 1821 01:09:14,939 --> 01:09:14,230 the interview I don't think I've ever 1822 01:09:16,769 --> 01:09:14,949 made it public 1823 01:09:18,390 --> 01:09:16,779 I didn't an interview with Steven Lufkin 1824 01:09:20,099 --> 01:09:18,400 Steven Lufkin was one of the 1825 01:09:23,249 --> 01:09:20,109 controversial witnesses for Steven Greer 1826 01:09:25,499 --> 01:09:23,259 and he claimed to be this general guy 1827 01:09:28,169 --> 01:09:25,509 who was a lawyer who had worked for 1828 01:09:29,550 --> 01:09:28,179 Eisenhower and claimed that he had been 1829 01:09:31,229 --> 01:09:29,560 with ice and Howard Eisenhower was 1830 01:09:33,780 --> 01:09:31,239 dueling UFOs and all this kind of stuff 1831 01:09:37,499 --> 01:09:33,790 I knew because I had interviewed him I 1832 01:09:39,959 --> 01:09:37,509 knew that he had said that the UFO thing 1833 01:09:41,220 --> 01:09:39,969 was being run out of Mount weather and I 1834 01:09:43,289 --> 01:09:41,230 asked him I said well how do you know 1835 01:09:45,390 --> 01:09:43,299 that and he said I was confronting him I 1836 01:09:47,099 --> 01:09:45,400 say how do you know that mount weather 1837 01:09:48,780 --> 01:09:47,109 was the place where they were monitoring 1838 01:09:51,450 --> 01:09:48,790 UFOs and stuff like that they had like 1839 01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:51,460 tracking UFOs and stuff a guy and he 1840 01:09:55,229 --> 01:09:53,770 said some guy told me he didn't mention 1841 01:09:57,030 --> 01:09:55,239 who the guy was but this guy told me 1842 01:09:59,340 --> 01:09:57,040 that this is where this happens and that 1843 01:10:00,630 --> 01:09:59,350 he had actually heard Eisenhower you'd 1844 01:10:00,930 --> 01:10:00,640 seen Eisenhower a couple times at Mount 1845 01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:00,940 weather 1846 01:10:05,790 --> 01:10:04,449 place so you I need a top-secret 1847 01:10:08,010 --> 01:10:05,800 security clearance just to get in the 1848 01:10:10,740 --> 01:10:08,020 place so all these things sort of fit 1849 01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:10,750 together that FEMA is running the whole 1850 01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:12,010 show and that's what you need 1851 01:10:17,340 --> 01:10:14,530 FEMA guy whether you believe in UFOs 1852 01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:17,350 aliens whatever you'd have to believe 1853 01:10:20,700 --> 01:10:18,850 that this guy and then one of the other 1854 01:10:22,500 --> 01:10:20,710 pieces of evidence I had was that the 1855 01:10:24,990 --> 01:10:22,510 FEMA manual this was the story that that 1856 01:10:27,780 --> 01:10:25,000 most people have covered that FEMA puts 1857 01:10:30,270 --> 01:10:27,790 out a manual to firefighters and they 1858 01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:30,280 have I think chapter 13 ha to deal with 1859 01:10:35,070 --> 01:10:33,250 a UFO cover recovery of a craft and they 1860 01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:35,080 actually have this chapter in this in 1861 01:10:39,419 --> 01:10:37,570 this manual FEMA manual on what to do if 1862 01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:39,429 a UFO crashes and they go through the 1863 01:10:42,510 --> 01:10:40,570 whole thing don't touch and there could 1864 01:10:44,100 --> 01:10:42,520 be you know radiation that could be you 1865 01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:44,110 know viruses and stuff and it goes 1866 01:10:47,399 --> 01:10:45,130 through the whole thing and then I think 1867 01:10:49,590 --> 01:10:47,409 they pulled it out of the manual once it 1868 01:10:50,820 --> 01:10:49,600 got exposed that this was there so you 1869 01:10:54,090 --> 01:10:50,830 see this kind of stuff that it makes 1870 01:10:56,790 --> 01:10:54,100 sense that FEMA knows the Canadians are 1871 01:10:58,350 --> 01:10:56,800 told so the president has to know and 1872 01:11:01,229 --> 01:10:58,360 that there is a plan and I absolutely 1873 01:11:03,090 --> 01:11:01,239 believe there is a plan in action that 1874 01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:03,100 that for all sorts of scenarios all 1875 01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:04,810 sorts of possibilities because that's 1876 01:11:08,010 --> 01:11:06,489 the way it works you that's what would 1877 01:11:10,169 --> 01:11:08,020 make sense Wow 1878 01:11:12,330 --> 01:11:10,179 now I'm gonna ask you we're gonna take a 1879 01:11:13,959 --> 01:11:12,340 real jack right here I'm gonna ask 1880 01:11:16,750 --> 01:11:13,969 because I've heard 1881 01:11:20,020 --> 01:11:16,760 about this before and we have someone in 1882 01:11:25,450 --> 01:11:20,030 the chat room that follows the Moody 1883 01:11:28,959 --> 01:11:25,460 Blues so I wanted to ask you you knew 1884 01:11:30,489 --> 01:11:28,969 something about the Moody Blues and I I 1885 01:11:33,819 --> 01:11:30,499 think I heard you mentioned something 1886 01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:33,829 about them can you talk about that the 1887 01:11:39,100 --> 01:11:36,050 Moody Blues were big-time into UFOs is 1888 01:11:42,430 --> 01:11:39,110 there's no tabata no doubt about it 1889 01:11:46,180 --> 01:11:42,440 they tell a few interesting stories they 1890 01:11:48,310 --> 01:11:46,190 were good friends with Jim talat oh so 1891 01:11:49,989 --> 01:11:48,320 if you ever have a chance to interview 1892 01:11:52,330 --> 01:11:49,999 him make sure you ask him about the 1893 01:11:55,180 --> 01:11:52,340 Moody Blues he did some work with them 1894 01:11:57,219 --> 01:11:55,190 and knew them fairly well and when they 1895 01:11:58,719 --> 01:11:57,229 came to Phoenix the Moody Blues they 1896 01:12:00,640 --> 01:11:58,729 would always go to Jim doll Tosa and get 1897 01:12:03,370 --> 01:12:00,650 the latest on UFOs the reason they were 1898 01:12:06,310 --> 01:12:03,380 interested in UFOs was that and this is 1899 01:12:07,989 --> 01:12:06,320 very open its in and it was in flying 1900 01:12:12,729 --> 01:12:07,999 saucer review I think they covered this 1901 01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:12,739 story in 1967 they are doing a concert 1902 01:12:21,700 --> 01:12:15,050 in Manchester England and they're going 1903 01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:21,710 back into London and Mike Pinder who is 1904 01:12:25,779 --> 01:12:23,449 the lead it was a lead singer for the 1905 01:12:28,569 --> 01:12:25,789 Moody Blues was very much into UFOs he 1906 01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:28,579 had UFO sightings as a kid he was very 1907 01:12:32,169 --> 01:12:30,170 open about the fact that sightings as a 1908 01:12:33,729 --> 01:12:32,179 kid he's sitting there in the back seat 1909 01:12:35,250 --> 01:12:33,739 and they're driving and he sees this 1910 01:12:37,660 --> 01:12:35,260 object which he thought was a 1911 01:12:39,700 --> 01:12:37,670 communication to our red light on top of 1912 01:12:40,930 --> 01:12:39,710 a tower and he's watching it watching it 1913 01:12:42,100 --> 01:12:40,940 it's still there still there and then he 1914 01:12:43,750 --> 01:12:42,110 points it out to the other guys and 1915 01:12:46,419 --> 01:12:43,760 they're all sort of watching it and then 1916 01:12:48,759 --> 01:12:46,429 they pull off the the motorway and the 1917 01:12:50,529 --> 01:12:48,769 thing lands in the office on the other 1918 01:12:53,049 --> 01:12:50,539 side of the motorway and in the forest 1919 01:12:54,100 --> 01:12:53,059 and that's all they remember and the 1920 01:12:55,899 --> 01:12:54,110 next thing they know they're back in 1921 01:13:00,189 --> 01:12:55,909 London and they've missing three hours 1922 01:13:03,189 --> 01:13:00,199 and one of the guys Graham I think was 1923 01:13:04,750 --> 01:13:03,199 the guy actually drew what he believed 1924 01:13:06,399 --> 01:13:04,760 was the alien that they'd had this and 1925 01:13:08,620 --> 01:13:06,409 they all basically are pretty open about 1926 01:13:10,750 --> 01:13:08,630 the fact that yeah they may have been 1927 01:13:13,299 --> 01:13:10,760 abducted that night that this actually 1928 01:13:15,729 --> 01:13:13,309 did happen and I actually had a guy 1929 01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:15,739 there's another one now a guy by name of 1930 01:13:19,930 --> 01:13:18,170 Steve Boucher who was in a band in 1931 01:13:22,029 --> 01:13:19,940 Canada I tracked this guy for years and 1932 01:13:23,589 --> 01:13:22,039 I was trying to find this band because I 1933 01:13:25,509 --> 01:13:23,599 heard another band had been abducted the 1934 01:13:27,399 --> 01:13:25,519 entire band in Canada out of st. 1935 01:13:28,020 --> 01:13:27,409 Catharines Ontario and this had been 1936 01:13:31,830 --> 01:13:28,030 written up in 1937 01:13:33,630 --> 01:13:31,840 a UFO Journal back in the 80s and then 1938 01:13:35,610 --> 01:13:33,640 I'm in Branford a couple months ago and 1939 01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:35,620 suddenly this guy's we're in it so when 1940 01:13:38,220 --> 01:13:37,090 these experienced or group things and 1941 01:13:39,570 --> 01:13:38,230 this guy stands up and tell start 1942 01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:39,580 telling the story I'm god this sounds 1943 01:13:43,170 --> 01:13:41,410 familiar and I'm somebody realized like 1944 01:13:44,190 --> 01:13:43,180 this guy was in this band and I went to 1945 01:13:45,780 --> 01:13:44,200 him I said man I've been looking for you 1946 01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:45,790 for years man I need to talk to you and 1947 01:13:50,130 --> 01:13:47,650 give me a business card and I actually 1948 01:13:53,610 --> 01:13:50,140 had him on my talking to my group in 1949 01:13:54,900 --> 01:13:53,620 Winnipeg on skype and he said same thing 1950 01:13:57,210 --> 01:13:54,910 as the Moody Blues I mean but he 1951 01:13:58,860 --> 01:13:57,220 remembered he went through Budd Hopkins 1952 01:13:59,970 --> 01:13:58,870 regressed them I think three times 1953 01:14:02,640 --> 01:13:59,980 though the person does by Dawkins 1954 01:14:03,990 --> 01:14:02,650 regressions did him three times and then 1955 01:14:05,940 --> 01:14:04,000 he had went back to Toronto we had a 1956 01:14:08,310 --> 01:14:05,950 bunch more regressions and he clearly 1957 01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:08,320 tells I mean all the all the band 1958 01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:10,810 members on the on the on the ship and 1959 01:14:14,550 --> 01:14:12,730 he's giving them his flute and and the 1960 01:14:16,830 --> 01:14:14,560 alien actually takes this flute and and 1961 01:14:18,990 --> 01:14:16,840 keeps it and then he talks about how the 1962 01:14:21,150 --> 01:14:19,000 entire audience was abducted later on 1963 01:14:23,310 --> 01:14:21,160 where a situation was abducted but the 1964 01:14:25,590 --> 01:14:23,320 Moody Blues is a big band and Moody 1965 01:14:27,810 --> 01:14:25,600 Blues with 70 million albums or whatever 1966 01:14:30,630 --> 01:14:27,820 they sold and the Moody Blues did a lot 1967 01:14:31,950 --> 01:14:30,640 of almost like anybody's into UFOs knows 1968 01:14:33,390 --> 01:14:31,960 what the Moody Blues and their music and 1969 01:14:35,610 --> 01:14:33,400 they're sort of influenced by the music 1970 01:14:38,370 --> 01:14:35,620 and they write the song the fastest way 1971 01:14:40,620 --> 01:14:38,380 to travel is with the mind or this is 1972 01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:40,630 through thought and this is how they fly 1973 01:14:43,740 --> 01:14:42,130 the UFOs this is where I get into 1974 01:14:45,330 --> 01:14:43,750 consciousness thing so they talk about 1975 01:14:47,340 --> 01:14:45,340 that but the in most interesting story 1976 01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:47,350 they tell is this is a story told by 1977 01:14:51,420 --> 01:14:49,690 Colin Anders and Colin Andrews cuz he 1978 01:14:53,700 --> 01:14:51,430 was very famous doing the crop circle 1979 01:14:55,290 --> 01:14:53,710 thing and he was approached by five 1980 01:14:57,750 --> 01:14:55,300 different bands the Moody Blues was one 1981 01:14:59,730 --> 01:14:57,760 of them and he tells a story that the 1982 01:15:02,640 --> 01:14:59,740 Moody Blues come to him after his 1983 01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:02,650 lecture and they say we want to talk to 1984 01:15:05,190 --> 01:15:03,610 you we'd like to take you out for lunch 1985 01:15:06,780 --> 01:15:05,200 we got something I want to tell you so 1986 01:15:08,190 --> 01:15:06,790 Colin tells the story and I've got on 1987 01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:08,200 tape Colin tells the story goes in 1988 01:15:11,610 --> 01:15:09,970 there's Pinder and the lead guitars for 1989 01:15:13,110 --> 01:15:11,620 the Moody Blues and they're having lunch 1990 01:15:14,820 --> 01:15:13,120 and Colin says you can tell these guys 1991 01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:14,830 are not making up this story yeah 1992 01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:16,090 because let's go back and forth telling 1993 01:15:19,230 --> 01:15:17,770 us then and they're going to one guy 1994 01:15:21,330 --> 01:15:19,240 tells a story and then back and forth 1995 01:15:23,850 --> 01:15:21,340 and they's tell the story that before 1996 01:15:26,190 --> 01:15:23,860 they were born they knew what was going 1997 01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:26,200 on that they were in a room with some 1998 01:15:30,300 --> 01:15:27,970 sort of elder type people and they were 1999 01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:30,310 told you are going to be musicians and 2000 01:15:33,690 --> 01:15:32,170 you're gonna go into the world and you 2001 01:15:34,830 --> 01:15:33,700 are there to raise consciousness and 2002 01:15:36,900 --> 01:15:34,840 you're going to put these lyrics into 2003 01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:36,910 your songs and Pinder is on record 2004 01:15:41,939 --> 01:15:41,050 saying lyrics have been put in songs by 2005 01:15:44,699 --> 01:15:41,949 forces 2006 01:15:46,109 --> 01:15:44,709 side of us and he's very open about that 2007 01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:46,119 but there they're telling the story that 2008 01:15:50,729 --> 01:15:48,610 before they were born they remember 2009 01:15:52,259 --> 01:15:50,739 clearly being told this job and then 2010 01:15:53,549 --> 01:15:52,269 they the lead guitarist sister Penry 2011 01:15:54,779 --> 01:15:53,559 says what to tell him how we came back 2012 01:15:56,219 --> 01:15:54,789 in tell him how we came back in the 2013 01:15:57,959 --> 01:15:56,229 world tell about that black hole and 2014 01:15:59,160 --> 01:15:57,969 then there was this black hole that they 2015 01:16:01,589 --> 01:15:59,170 came through this black hole and that's 2016 01:16:03,239 --> 01:16:01,599 how they came in in into into the world 2017 01:16:04,890 --> 01:16:03,249 and this gets down to the whole thing 2018 01:16:06,029 --> 01:16:04,900 with the experiences that you have I 2019 01:16:07,799 --> 01:16:06,039 done with the percentage but it's a 2020 01:16:10,350 --> 01:16:07,809 fairly high percentage of experiences 2021 01:16:12,180 --> 01:16:10,360 who will maintain they remember before 2022 01:16:13,919 --> 01:16:12,190 they were born they remember before they 2023 01:16:16,140 --> 01:16:13,929 were born that they had volunteered to 2024 01:16:18,660 --> 01:16:16,150 do this job this Steve Boucher who had 2025 01:16:20,370 --> 01:16:18,670 this band out of st. Catharines he tells 2026 01:16:22,410 --> 01:16:20,380 the story about the alien he gives me 2027 01:16:23,819 --> 01:16:22,420 the aliens name about him not wanting to 2028 01:16:25,199 --> 01:16:23,829 come and the aliens trying to talk him 2029 01:16:26,699 --> 01:16:25,209 into fact he's got to come to earth and 2030 01:16:28,739 --> 01:16:26,709 he's got this thing he's supposed to do 2031 01:16:30,419 --> 01:16:28,749 and all this kind of stuff so there's a 2032 01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:30,429 lot of people have this this thing about 2033 01:16:34,469 --> 01:16:31,449 before they were born 2034 01:16:35,609 --> 01:16:34,479 but the Moody Blues I mean I can say you 2035 01:16:37,290 --> 01:16:35,619 won't believe me if I tell you I 2036 01:16:38,969 --> 01:16:37,300 remember before our barn but the Moody 2037 01:16:42,719 --> 01:16:38,979 Blues is a different story these are big 2038 01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:42,729 time guys and so I've got the book 2039 01:16:46,649 --> 01:16:44,530 finished it's not going to editing I do 2040 01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:46,659 a whole thing with all the musicians 2041 01:16:52,199 --> 01:16:49,570 it's just unbelievable how many are 2042 01:16:54,810 --> 01:16:52,209 experiences and how many believed they 2043 01:16:57,120 --> 01:16:54,820 were they were part alien John Denver 2044 01:16:59,520 --> 01:16:57,130 for example believed that II was part 2045 01:17:01,979 --> 01:16:59,530 alien he came from the planet Lyra and 2046 01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:01,989 he actually writes a song called spirit 2047 01:17:05,399 --> 01:17:03,610 that was not released until after he 2048 01:17:06,540 --> 01:17:05,409 after he dies and you will see he's 2049 01:17:08,910 --> 01:17:06,550 talking about the stars in this 2050 01:17:10,919 --> 01:17:08,920 constellation Lyra and in public he 2051 01:17:12,899 --> 01:17:10,929 would say I often imagine I came from 2052 01:17:16,699 --> 01:17:12,909 this constellation the guy that wrote 2053 01:17:20,939 --> 01:17:16,709 the lyrics for the song or moves of the 2054 01:17:22,709 --> 01:17:20,949 melody for spirit said he believed he 2055 01:17:24,330 --> 01:17:22,719 was from there and piles of these 2056 01:17:29,279 --> 01:17:24,340 different people the guy who was ahead 2057 01:17:31,290 --> 01:17:29,289 of dub music that made Bob Marley famous 2058 01:17:32,819 --> 01:17:31,300 he believed he was an alien there was 2059 01:17:35,489 --> 01:17:32,829 piles and believed the Raelians there 2060 01:17:37,770 --> 01:17:35,499 was a there's a pile on the clearly head 2061 01:17:40,770 --> 01:17:37,780 of KISS clearly says he was abducted 2062 01:17:42,779 --> 01:17:40,780 John Lennon every indication we have 2063 01:17:44,669 --> 01:17:42,789 from John Lennon sighting was it was not 2064 01:17:47,459 --> 01:17:44,679 just a sighting it was very very bizarre 2065 01:17:50,429 --> 01:17:47,469 it had the odds effect and he was 2066 01:17:55,020 --> 01:17:50,439 probably abducted so you have a real 2067 01:18:00,089 --> 01:17:55,030 weird connection between aliens and 2068 01:18:01,399 --> 01:18:00,099 especially rock music but the I guess 2069 01:18:04,919 --> 01:18:01,409 the Moody Blues is one of the more 2070 01:18:07,049 --> 01:18:04,929 dramatic give me another one John 2071 01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:07,059 Anderson from yes the band yes which 2072 01:18:12,620 --> 01:18:09,730 also sold 50 million albums he came to 2073 01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:12,630 Colin Anders and he also on a radio show 2074 01:18:18,629 --> 01:18:16,690 where there was four people who he told 2075 01:18:20,879 --> 01:18:18,639 it off the air for people that I know 2076 01:18:22,770 --> 01:18:20,889 that were part of that thing when they 2077 01:18:24,959 --> 01:18:22,780 he was dead the interview told them as 2078 01:18:28,500 --> 01:18:24,969 well so I can tell the story that John 2079 01:18:30,780 --> 01:18:28,510 Anderson clearly he says that all art 2080 01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:30,790 and music comes from the Pleiades and 2081 01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:32,290 the question was well how does he know 2082 01:18:35,669 --> 01:18:33,610 that we're just getting this idea from 2083 01:18:37,859 --> 01:18:35,679 and he's fairly open that he's had UFO 2084 01:18:41,339 --> 01:18:37,869 sightings but what he told Colin Anders 2085 01:18:42,930 --> 01:18:41,349 was he was in Las Vegas Nevada doing a 2086 01:18:45,089 --> 01:18:42,940 concert and that he was staying at 2087 01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:45,099 Caesar's Palace and that when he was in 2088 01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:48,250 his room an alien came through the wall 2089 01:18:53,100 --> 01:18:50,650 and gave him information now he's never 2090 01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:53,110 gone public with that but I know Colin 2091 01:18:58,109 --> 01:18:55,690 Andrews and four or five and his four 2092 01:19:00,060 --> 01:18:58,119 people so five people total that he's 2093 01:19:01,859 --> 01:19:00,070 told that story to in private so you 2094 01:19:04,470 --> 01:19:01,869 have this very bizarre connection 2095 01:19:06,959 --> 01:19:04,480 between aliens and especially rock music 2096 01:19:08,459 --> 01:19:06,969 stars so what's the name of your book 2097 01:19:10,319 --> 01:19:08,469 that's going to be coming on have you to 2098 01:19:12,810 --> 01:19:10,329 have a working title or a finished title 2099 01:19:15,899 --> 01:19:12,820 mm-hmm no I don't I I the first one's 2100 01:19:18,180 --> 01:19:15,909 coming out is on inspiration it's it's 2101 01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:18,190 inspired the paranormal world of 2102 01:19:21,569 --> 01:19:20,170 creativity so I go through it started 2103 01:19:24,060 --> 01:19:21,579 with music what what happened with the 2104 01:19:26,010 --> 01:19:24,070 music thing and I say it's pretty funny 2105 01:19:27,419 --> 01:19:26,020 my father has been dead for ten years my 2106 01:19:28,649 --> 01:19:27,429 father would be rolling over in his 2107 01:19:30,060 --> 01:19:28,659 grave if he knew that his son was 2108 01:19:31,919 --> 01:19:30,070 writing a book I'm using because I'm a 2109 01:19:33,629 --> 01:19:31,929 musical idiot and I'll say clearly my 2110 01:19:36,270 --> 01:19:33,639 musical idiot I have never listened to 2111 01:19:39,089 --> 01:19:36,280 music I have bought two records in my 2112 01:19:40,830 --> 01:19:39,099 entire life I listen to talk radio I do 2113 01:19:42,270 --> 01:19:40,840 not listen to even now I don't listen 2114 01:19:44,850 --> 01:19:42,280 music except for the songs these bizarre 2115 01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:44,860 songs that were at the connections and 2116 01:19:49,020 --> 01:19:48,010 and and that I listen to and some of 2117 01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:49,030 them I don't even listen the whole song 2118 01:19:53,060 --> 01:19:51,250 I just yeah okay this makes sense the 2119 01:19:55,530 --> 01:19:53,070 lyrics that that this is part of it and 2120 01:19:57,149 --> 01:19:55,540 so and I don't play a musical instrument 2121 01:19:58,740 --> 01:19:57,159 never played my whole family's musical I 2122 01:19:59,399 --> 01:19:58,750 don't play a single musical instrument 2123 01:20:01,410 --> 01:19:59,409 or anything 2124 01:20:03,990 --> 01:20:01,420 and I'm writing this this this book I'm 2125 01:20:06,479 --> 01:20:04,000 music but though I'm doing the 2126 01:20:07,890 --> 01:20:06,489 inspiration one and what happened was no 2127 01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:07,900 interest in music and I get a phone call 2128 01:20:13,529 --> 01:20:08,530 from 2129 01:20:15,450 --> 01:20:13,539 he was talking to my group last night 2130 01:20:17,490 --> 01:20:15,460 and you're you were talking to Alejandro 2131 01:20:18,990 --> 01:20:17,500 and all the others talking about the UFO 2132 01:20:21,330 --> 01:20:19,000 sighting well the UFO sighting that he's 2133 01:20:23,580 --> 01:20:21,340 going to talk about happened with Chris 2134 01:20:26,819 --> 01:20:23,590 Bledsoe and Chris Bludso's told that 2135 01:20:28,430 --> 01:20:26,829 story in detail last night to my group 2136 01:20:33,740 --> 01:20:28,440 about this what John's gonna talk to 2137 01:20:36,270 --> 01:20:33,750 Alejandro about and so Chris Bledsoe has 2138 01:20:38,609 --> 01:20:36,280 I'm not gonna get in story it just it is 2139 01:20:39,990 --> 01:20:38,619 the wildest story of all times Warner 2140 01:20:42,060 --> 01:20:40,000 Brothers gonna throw eighty million 2141 01:20:43,830 --> 01:20:42,070 dollars at this story they were so fast 2142 01:20:48,029 --> 01:20:43,840 it's an unbelievable story but anyway 2143 01:20:49,529 --> 01:20:48,039 Chris Bledsoe contact me by email or 2144 01:20:50,879 --> 01:20:49,539 phone or something I've known it for 2145 01:20:53,069 --> 01:20:50,889 number years I had a bizarre experience 2146 01:20:55,620 --> 01:20:53,079 with him at his house and I've known him 2147 01:20:58,859 --> 01:20:55,630 since about 2012 and he phones me up and 2148 01:21:01,529 --> 01:20:58,869 he says I just want to let you know the 2149 01:21:03,209 --> 01:21:01,539 the guardians who he calls the people 2150 01:21:04,500 --> 01:21:03,219 he's dealing with the aliens he said 2151 01:21:08,790 --> 01:21:04,510 they've told me that the message is in 2152 01:21:11,939 --> 01:21:08,800 the music and I got whatever and he said 2153 01:21:15,569 --> 01:21:11,949 the one song is Kashmir by Led Zeppelin 2154 01:21:18,149 --> 01:21:15,579 and that's one of the ones and and then 2155 01:21:19,770 --> 01:21:18,159 he says the other one is and this is the 2156 01:21:21,479 --> 01:21:19,780 hook this is I'm on you can see it's 2157 01:21:23,459 --> 01:21:21,489 almost like this thing is planned more I 2158 01:21:25,350 --> 01:21:23,469 see UFOs it's like this thing is planned 2159 01:21:26,850 --> 01:21:25,360 it's like I'm getting dragged into one 2160 01:21:27,959 --> 01:21:26,860 thing after another it's like you know 2161 01:21:29,700 --> 01:21:27,969 I'm not going the right direction so the 2162 01:21:31,979 --> 01:21:29,710 aliens pull something on me and drag me 2163 01:21:34,470 --> 01:21:31,989 back into this thing again no interest 2164 01:21:36,629 --> 01:21:34,480 in like no inch none no interest in 2165 01:21:39,240 --> 01:21:36,639 music and he says to me he says the 2166 01:21:40,979 --> 01:21:39,250 other song is by Neil Young it's called 2167 01:21:43,020 --> 01:21:40,989 after the gold rush I said really 2168 01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:43,030 Neil Young they know nothing about music 2169 01:21:47,700 --> 01:21:45,610 but I do know that Neil Young the famous 2170 01:21:50,490 --> 01:21:47,710 musician grew up in Winnipeg Manitoba 2171 01:21:51,959 --> 01:21:50,500 Canada I know that and I said Neil Young 2172 01:21:53,220 --> 01:21:51,969 are you kidding me Neil Young he's from 2173 01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:53,230 my city you always from my city I'm 2174 01:21:56,819 --> 01:21:54,730 looking at the synchronicity of this 2175 01:21:58,200 --> 01:21:56,829 thing that's weird you know so I go and 2176 01:21:59,760 --> 01:21:58,210 look at the lyrics and though if you 2177 01:22:02,459 --> 01:21:59,770 look at the lyrics for after the gold 2178 01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:02,469 rush it is like there's 39 percent of 2179 01:22:05,850 --> 01:22:04,210 all experiences on board will say 2180 01:22:07,319 --> 01:22:05,860 they've seen the screen I asked him 2181 01:22:08,790 --> 01:22:07,329 you've seen the screen yeah I've seen 2182 01:22:11,339 --> 01:22:08,800 the screen and the screen is this thing 2183 01:22:13,260 --> 01:22:11,349 or that or they're told by visions and 2184 01:22:14,970 --> 01:22:13,270 dreams and stuff it's this Cataclysm 2185 01:22:16,529 --> 01:22:14,980 just you know this giant wave that comes 2186 01:22:18,890 --> 01:22:16,539 over the California coast that a lot of 2187 01:22:20,910 --> 01:22:18,900 people see and and these this 2188 01:22:22,330 --> 01:22:20,920 catastrophe that if we don't straighten 2189 01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:22,340 things out this is what's gonna happen 2190 01:22:26,080 --> 01:22:24,290 and there's a short - young kids and and 2191 01:22:27,879 --> 01:22:26,090 the impressive people on this this 2192 01:22:30,939 --> 01:22:27,889 environmental message that's coming up 2193 01:22:33,899 --> 01:22:30,949 from the aliens and so this the the song 2194 01:22:37,209 --> 01:22:33,909 was written by Neil Young in 1968 and 2195 01:22:39,580 --> 01:22:37,219 the song when when he sings the song if 2196 01:22:42,189 --> 01:22:39,590 you look at what he's saying the last 2197 01:22:44,250 --> 01:22:42,199 half of the lyrics are that we are 2198 01:22:47,109 --> 01:22:44,260 treating the world like a gold rush and 2199 01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:47,119 when the gold is gone it's going to 2200 01:22:52,030 --> 01:22:49,250 become a ghost town and this silver 2201 01:22:54,310 --> 01:22:52,040 seeds the flying saucers are gonna come 2202 01:22:58,570 --> 01:22:54,320 and take the chosen ones which is what 2203 01:23:01,359 --> 01:22:58,580 we now have on Smith calls abductees the 2204 01:23:03,399 --> 01:23:01,369 chosen ones to another planet and this 2205 01:23:06,580 --> 01:23:03,409 is his song and then you see this this 2206 01:23:08,229 --> 01:23:06,590 bizarre synchronicity where you get he 2207 01:23:09,820 --> 01:23:08,239 sings his song with this environmental 2208 01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:09,830 message and he's big environmental he's 2209 01:23:13,810 --> 01:23:11,570 up in Canada or he's trying to shut down 2210 01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:13,820 the oil sands in Canada he's huge 2211 01:23:18,669 --> 01:23:15,770 environmentalist and that that's another 2212 01:23:20,439 --> 01:23:18,679 tag that almost like he's an experiencer 2213 01:23:22,120 --> 01:23:20,449 but I have no proof days and experience 2214 01:23:24,010 --> 01:23:22,130 except for this bizarre song that has 2215 01:23:25,540 --> 01:23:24,020 this experience or message in it and 2216 01:23:29,169 --> 01:23:25,550 then suddenly you see all the people 2217 01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:29,179 starting to sing their song what's her 2218 01:23:36,399 --> 01:23:29,810 name 2219 01:23:36,939 --> 01:23:36,409 Tom York was one he sings the song Tom 2220 01:23:39,010 --> 01:23:36,949 York 2221 01:23:41,410 --> 01:23:39,020 sings this song there's no doubt he's an 2222 01:23:42,879 --> 01:23:41,420 experiencer you see these this song the 2223 01:23:49,149 --> 01:23:42,889 other one that's sang it was the guy 2224 01:23:56,830 --> 01:23:49,159 that was on Santana oh I sang that when 2225 01:23:58,270 --> 01:23:56,840 they did Grammy Award for well cause 2226 01:24:01,330 --> 01:23:58,280 Santana what what happened with the 2227 01:24:03,430 --> 01:24:01,340 Carlos Santana thing was Carlos Santana 2228 01:24:04,510 --> 01:24:03,440 doesn't get his like you have people are 2229 01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:04,520 claiming they're getting from aliens 2230 01:24:08,530 --> 01:24:06,650 then you get people who are getting it 2231 01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:08,540 through dreams so I do the dreams all 2232 01:24:13,089 --> 01:24:10,810 the artists who got songs through dreams 2233 01:24:13,899 --> 01:24:13,099 Nobel Prizes that came through dreams 2234 01:24:15,879 --> 01:24:13,909 and stuff like that 2235 01:24:18,669 --> 01:24:15,889 but Carlos Santana believed he was 2236 01:24:20,290 --> 01:24:18,679 getting his musical inspiration from an 2237 01:24:22,600 --> 01:24:20,300 archangel by name of Metatron and 2238 01:24:23,890 --> 01:24:22,610 Metatron falls into the UFO thing a 2239 01:24:26,950 --> 01:24:23,900 number of times but anyway he says he's 2240 01:24:33,839 --> 01:24:26,960 getting this inspiration and in 1997 2241 01:24:36,250 --> 01:24:33,849 Carlos Santana gets a a message that 2242 01:24:37,870 --> 01:24:36,260 through this channeling thing 2243 01:24:41,350 --> 01:24:37,880 says you haven't put out a major album 2244 01:24:44,200 --> 01:24:41,360 for 15 years what we're gonna do is 2245 01:24:45,580 --> 01:24:44,210 we're gonna take the top musicians and 2246 01:24:47,410 --> 01:24:45,590 we're gonna link you up with the top 2247 01:24:49,299 --> 01:24:47,420 musicians and we're gonna bring you back 2248 01:24:51,100 --> 01:24:49,309 onto the airwaves and you're gonna give 2249 01:24:54,850 --> 01:24:51,110 this message to the young children of 2250 01:24:56,680 --> 01:24:54,860 the world and so he says okay fine 2251 01:24:58,689 --> 01:24:56,690 whatever and suddenly he says people 2252 01:25:01,870 --> 01:24:58,699 start throwing him up like this this guy 2253 01:25:03,970 --> 01:25:01,880 that's name is escaping me Eric Clapton 2254 01:25:05,470 --> 01:25:03,980 phones them up all these major people 2255 01:25:08,709 --> 01:25:05,480 phone them up and and they say we're 2256 01:25:11,740 --> 01:25:08,719 gonna make you famous again in 2000 he 2257 01:25:15,580 --> 01:25:11,750 puts out the album called supernatural 2258 01:25:18,160 --> 01:25:15,590 supernatural sold 30 million albums it 2259 01:25:19,540 --> 01:25:18,170 won eight Grammy Awards did the record 2260 01:25:22,540 --> 01:25:19,550 the record is held by Michael Jackson 2261 01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:22,550 and Carlos Santana for this album and 2262 01:25:27,160 --> 01:25:25,010 and the people that are on there is Eric 2263 01:25:28,569 --> 01:25:27,170 Eric Clapton is rumored to be an 2264 01:25:31,149 --> 01:25:28,579 experiencer I heard that he'd been to 2265 01:25:33,669 --> 01:25:31,159 Hopkins and and and then regressions his 2266 01:25:35,529 --> 01:25:33,679 son is Michael Lee Hill Michael Lee Hill 2267 01:25:37,299 --> 01:25:35,539 is this guy who's photographing the UFOs 2268 01:25:39,250 --> 01:25:37,309 he claims to be the biological sign live 2269 01:25:41,919 --> 01:25:39,260 Clapton he's photographing these UFOs 2270 01:25:43,569 --> 01:25:41,929 over there over the Lake Erie or 2271 01:25:45,729 --> 01:25:43,579 whatever he lives in Cleveland Ohio 2272 01:25:47,410 --> 01:25:45,739 where where Clapton lives he has the 2273 01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:47,420 picture of his mother and Clapton 2274 01:25:51,279 --> 01:25:49,730 together and you you get these 2275 01:25:53,740 --> 01:25:51,289 synchronicities where suddenly all these 2276 01:25:56,470 --> 01:25:53,750 UFO people appear these experiences 2277 01:25:59,470 --> 01:25:56,480 appear with Santana so one of them is 2278 01:26:03,189 --> 01:25:59,480 experiencer and he sings this song then 2279 01:26:04,390 --> 01:26:03,199 you have the girl who sang Gloria she 2280 01:26:06,339 --> 01:26:04,400 was one of the first people to appear on 2281 01:26:07,959 --> 01:26:06,349 Saturday Night Live and she believes 2282 01:26:11,109 --> 01:26:07,969 she's part alien as well 2283 01:26:12,040 --> 01:26:11,119 she's the the godmother godmother punk 2284 01:26:13,750 --> 01:26:12,050 rock anyway 2285 01:26:17,200 --> 01:26:13,760 she sings the song all she does this 2286 01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:17,210 change it he says he uses 1970s and she 2287 01:26:20,620 --> 01:26:19,010 uses the 21st century she changed his a 2288 01:26:22,180 --> 01:26:20,630 couple of words in there she sings this 2289 01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:22,190 environmental song she sings it all the 2290 01:26:29,229 --> 01:26:22,610 time 2291 01:26:30,700 --> 01:26:29,239 well you know there was Gloria Gloria 2292 01:26:35,859 --> 01:26:30,710 she was said one of the first people are 2293 01:26:37,299 --> 01:26:35,869 in Sardinia nightlife anyway but anyway 2294 01:26:38,410 --> 01:26:37,309 you have sudden you have the all these 2295 01:26:44,229 --> 01:26:38,420 and the other one that's saying this 2296 01:26:45,609 --> 01:26:44,239 song was Dolly Parton and Dolly Parton 2297 01:26:46,959 --> 01:26:45,619 writes the song about abduction she 2298 01:26:48,129 --> 01:26:46,969 writes this thing I'm gone I think the 2299 01:26:50,049 --> 01:26:48,139 song is called I'm gone I've been 2300 01:26:51,849 --> 01:26:50,059 abducted and it's kind of a joke 2301 01:26:54,759 --> 01:26:51,859 what's kind of a joke she actually goes 2302 01:26:56,500 --> 01:26:54,769 to Neil Young and she says to him what's 2303 01:26:57,819 --> 01:26:56,510 the song about cuz her and Linda 2304 01:26:59,770 --> 01:26:57,829 Ronstadt and somebody else wanted to 2305 01:27:00,129 --> 01:26:59,780 sing this this song is after the gold 2306 01:27:02,500 --> 01:27:00,139 rush 2307 01:27:04,929 --> 01:27:02,510 so she says what's it mean Neil what was 2308 01:27:06,459 --> 01:27:04,939 the song mean and Neil Young says I have 2309 01:27:07,929 --> 01:27:06,469 no idea I was totally stoned when I 2310 01:27:09,309 --> 01:27:07,939 wrote the thing yeah I have no idea each 2311 01:27:12,159 --> 01:27:09,319 verse may mean something different 2312 01:27:13,000 --> 01:27:12,169 depending upon what I was on and so he's 2313 01:27:14,199 --> 01:27:13,010 claiming he doesn't know what this 2314 01:27:16,209 --> 01:27:14,209 lyrics mean but if you look at the 2315 01:27:17,979 --> 01:27:16,219 lyrics you see this wow it's like this 2316 01:27:19,359 --> 01:27:17,989 sort of environmental thing which a lot 2317 01:27:22,779 --> 01:27:19,369 of them get dragged into if you if you 2318 01:27:25,449 --> 01:27:22,789 look at sting you look at sting he talks 2319 01:27:27,669 --> 01:27:25,459 about doing the ayahuasca thing in South 2320 01:27:29,739 --> 01:27:27,679 America and he tells in his but his 2321 01:27:32,469 --> 01:27:29,749 biography tells the story about the fact 2322 01:27:35,079 --> 01:27:32,479 that he's put in with these alien type 2323 01:27:37,659 --> 01:27:35,089 gray type figures grab him and he's put 2324 01:27:39,669 --> 01:27:37,669 in front of this female alien and he's 2325 01:27:41,799 --> 01:27:39,679 playing this game of chess and he knows 2326 01:27:43,629 --> 01:27:41,809 he has to win this game and he loses the 2327 01:27:45,309 --> 01:27:43,639 game and he suddenly becomes obsessed 2328 01:27:47,500 --> 01:27:45,319 with the rainforest and he's put in 2329 01:27:49,659 --> 01:27:47,510 enough money from what I the figures I 2330 01:27:51,309 --> 01:27:49,669 saw to save 42 million acres of 2331 01:27:55,719 --> 01:27:51,319 rainforest he puts piles of money the 2332 01:27:57,669 --> 01:27:55,729 same as the head of Grateful Dead he was 2333 01:27:59,589 --> 01:27:57,679 big environmentalist he claimed that he 2334 01:28:00,879 --> 01:27:59,599 had this abduction experience and he was 2335 01:28:02,949 --> 01:28:00,889 putting money into the rainforest and 2336 01:28:06,189 --> 01:28:02,959 and you have Olivia newton-john who had 2337 01:28:08,079 --> 01:28:06,199 a real close encounter at 15 years old 2338 01:28:10,149 --> 01:28:08,089 her hair was standing up and she becomes 2339 01:28:12,729 --> 01:28:10,159 this massive environmentalist and and 2340 01:28:14,799 --> 01:28:12,739 hew and animal rights activists like 2341 01:28:16,569 --> 01:28:14,809 major and you see these so I put these 2342 01:28:18,099 --> 01:28:16,579 connections with the animal rights and 2343 01:28:20,799 --> 01:28:18,109 then where they're getting the songs and 2344 01:28:22,689 --> 01:28:20,809 these download songs are just so you 2345 01:28:24,909 --> 01:28:22,699 can't make this stuff up I'll tell you a 2346 01:28:26,529 --> 01:28:24,919 bizarre download which gets not so much 2347 01:28:28,149 --> 01:28:26,539 a day honest but this this download 2348 01:28:32,259 --> 01:28:28,159 thing there people are tapping into this 2349 01:28:36,459 --> 01:28:32,269 sort of upper whatever they're pulling 2350 01:28:39,699 --> 01:28:36,469 it on knowhere bono bono has a concert 2351 01:28:43,540 --> 01:28:39,709 yes I if you see his 2012 concert he has 2352 01:28:44,829 --> 01:28:43,550 a thing called us the spaceship and he's 2353 01:28:45,939 --> 01:28:44,839 in the spaceship thing and he's goes 2354 01:28:47,529 --> 01:28:45,949 around the world and he's doing this 2355 01:28:50,169 --> 01:28:47,539 concert and he doesn't really talk about 2356 01:28:52,779 --> 01:28:50,179 UFOs and then he has this dis event that 2357 01:28:55,059 --> 01:28:52,789 has this above the this this big huge 2358 01:28:56,649 --> 01:28:55,069 thing that he's under you have this sort 2359 01:28:59,949 --> 01:28:56,659 of a banner thing that runs around with 2360 01:29:01,869 --> 01:28:59,959 with with messages and images and stuff 2361 01:29:03,339 --> 01:29:01,879 and then suddenly you have this alien 2362 01:29:03,820 --> 01:29:03,349 comes on the screen above that above 2363 01:29:08,290 --> 01:29:03,830 this 2364 01:29:10,060 --> 01:29:08,300 alien says what time is it what time is 2365 01:29:12,400 --> 01:29:10,070 it and then Olson is three three three 2366 01:29:14,140 --> 01:29:12,410 three two three goes across this screen 2367 01:29:17,910 --> 01:29:14,150 I couldn't believe it like wow three 2368 01:29:22,810 --> 01:29:17,920 three three and then bono says hi 2369 01:29:25,540 --> 01:29:22,820 time time for help no end of the world 2370 01:29:29,020 --> 01:29:25,550 we need help and the people the Bono 2371 01:29:30,460 --> 01:29:29,030 people interpreted as Jeremiah 333 that 2372 01:29:33,220 --> 01:29:30,470 it wasn't the three three three that the 2373 01:29:34,150 --> 01:29:33,230 UFO people be Venus it was Jeremiah 333 2374 01:29:36,430 --> 01:29:34,160 which is supposed to be as well as 2375 01:29:37,720 --> 01:29:36,440 favoured passages was call upon me in 2376 01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:37,730 the day of trouble and now added liberty 2377 01:29:41,590 --> 01:29:39,650 so I do it like a download I'll tie her 2378 01:29:43,720 --> 01:29:41,600 bizarre this download thing he just came 2379 01:29:47,350 --> 01:29:43,730 against about bono was doing a concert 2380 01:29:48,640 --> 01:29:47,360 at Wembley Stadium in England and he 2381 01:29:50,110 --> 01:29:48,650 can't sleep the night before he's like 2382 01:29:51,430 --> 01:29:50,120 me before I had lectured lots of times I 2383 01:29:52,450 --> 01:29:51,440 don't sleep the night before so he's 2384 01:29:56,260 --> 01:29:52,460 there and he can't sleep and he's 2385 01:30:00,100 --> 01:29:56,270 playing this film called blue velvet and 2386 01:30:05,350 --> 01:30:00,110 in the film there's shoots yeah I'm not 2387 01:30:09,520 --> 01:30:05,360 not a music no I'm gonna ruin the whole 2388 01:30:14,620 --> 01:30:09,530 story here by not saying my dreams 2389 01:30:20,230 --> 01:30:14,630 mystery woman hang on he see this guy 2390 01:30:26,140 --> 01:30:20,240 singing this song darn it's good it's 2391 01:30:27,700 --> 01:30:26,150 ruining the story here Shh anyway anyway 2392 01:30:30,070 --> 01:30:27,710 in the song that they're singing this 2393 01:30:32,910 --> 01:30:30,080 guy song and he's from Tennessee 2394 01:30:37,960 --> 01:30:32,920 he's a country-western type guy died in 2395 01:30:40,060 --> 01:30:37,970 1990s and the song was called my dreams 2396 01:30:42,430 --> 01:30:40,070 so he's playing this tape he can't sleep 2397 01:30:44,050 --> 01:30:42,440 he's playing this this vid this movie 2398 01:30:47,290 --> 01:30:44,060 over and over again and this song comes 2399 01:30:49,480 --> 01:30:47,300 with this guy singing this song so he he 2400 01:30:51,820 --> 01:30:49,490 ghost he finally goes to sleep he wakes 2401 01:30:54,070 --> 01:30:51,830 up and there's a song in his head and 2402 01:30:55,720 --> 01:30:54,080 it's a song that he thinks that this guy 2403 01:30:57,100 --> 01:30:55,730 should be singing and he thinks well 2404 01:30:58,120 --> 01:30:57,110 it's just another song that this guy 2405 01:31:00,640 --> 01:30:58,130 sang and then he's thinking one knows 2406 01:31:03,550 --> 01:31:00,650 just a different song so he goes and he 2407 01:31:05,800 --> 01:31:03,560 and and at the at the soundcheck at 2408 01:31:14,640 --> 01:31:05,810 Wembley Stadium before he has the the 2409 01:31:20,500 --> 01:31:17,770 Orbison Roy Orbison so 2410 01:31:23,020 --> 01:31:20,510 Roberson he says Roy Orbison song sohee 2411 01:31:25,360 --> 01:31:23,030 at the soundcheck he plays for his his 2412 01:31:26,710 --> 01:31:25,370 band he plays his song he said man I got 2413 01:31:28,480 --> 01:31:26,720 this and I've dream last night he plays 2414 01:31:31,240 --> 01:31:28,490 this song and they say okay good didn't 2415 01:31:33,970 --> 01:31:31,250 they play the concert he goes down below 2416 01:31:35,050 --> 01:31:33,980 into the dressing room and he's got to 2417 01:31:37,390 --> 01:31:35,060 finish the song he's gotta finish the 2418 01:31:40,450 --> 01:31:37,400 song it came in his head knock on the 2419 01:31:42,340 --> 01:31:40,460 door security guard says Roy Orbison is 2420 01:31:43,330 --> 01:31:42,350 here he wants to talk to you him and his 2421 01:31:46,360 --> 01:31:43,340 wife are here and they want to talk to 2422 01:31:48,520 --> 01:31:46,370 you and he goes really he's here and and 2423 01:31:51,340 --> 01:31:48,530 so Roy Everson comes in and he says you 2424 01:31:53,140 --> 01:31:51,350 know I loved your concert I loved it 2425 01:31:56,440 --> 01:31:53,150 I'd like to play with you guys have you 2426 01:31:58,030 --> 01:31:56,450 got a song I can do rehearsal says yeah 2427 01:32:00,370 --> 01:31:58,040 in fact I just got one this morning and 2428 01:32:01,990 --> 01:32:00,380 I thought it was for you so he gives him 2429 01:32:03,220 --> 01:32:02,000 this song it was called mystery woman it 2430 01:32:05,800 --> 01:32:03,230 was number five in the United States 2431 01:32:07,900 --> 01:32:05,810 number two in in Great Britain so I go a 2432 01:32:09,780 --> 01:32:07,910 whole chapter of these just you you 2433 01:32:12,370 --> 01:32:09,790 can't make this stuff up as songs of 2434 01:32:13,930 --> 01:32:12,380 where these songs come from that you 2435 01:32:15,100 --> 01:32:13,940 think you know the song and you don't 2436 01:32:16,930 --> 01:32:15,110 know the real song behind it and it's 2437 01:32:19,840 --> 01:32:16,940 this download thing it's this almost 2438 01:32:21,550 --> 01:32:19,850 like what what the the Moody Blues are 2439 01:32:23,350 --> 01:32:21,560 talking about that they were given this 2440 01:32:26,380 --> 01:32:23,360 stuff that a lot of the stuff that's in 2441 01:32:31,540 --> 01:32:26,390 their their their albums and their songs 2442 01:32:32,290 --> 01:32:31,550 was given by somebody else Wow 2443 01:32:36,040 --> 01:32:32,300 interesting 2444 01:32:37,690 --> 01:32:36,050 so someone wanted to know up on the 2445 01:32:40,210 --> 01:32:37,700 message board do you think there's a 2446 01:32:43,060 --> 01:32:40,220 connection between UFOs and 2447 01:32:46,420 --> 01:32:43,070 synchronicity oh absolutely it's all 2448 01:32:49,630 --> 01:32:46,430 connected I say it's it's there's a book 2449 01:32:51,970 --> 01:32:49,640 written by Stephen King who actually got 2450 01:32:53,530 --> 01:32:51,980 a lot of his books came through lucid 2451 01:32:56,560 --> 01:32:53,540 dreaming a lot of people use lucid 2452 01:32:58,990 --> 01:32:56,570 dreaming to tap into this he has an 2453 01:33:01,240 --> 01:32:59,000 expression in their SSDD so when I talk 2454 01:33:04,090 --> 01:33:01,250 about it I say that's how it works 2455 01:33:06,190 --> 01:33:04,100 it's SSDD same [\h__\h] different day it's 2456 01:33:09,250 --> 01:33:06,200 all the same thing what it is is 2457 01:33:11,880 --> 01:33:09,260 shutting down the left brain you have a 2458 01:33:15,670 --> 01:33:11,890 rational analytical brain that we think 2459 01:33:18,190 --> 01:33:15,680 is in charge of giving us new ideas and 2460 01:33:20,470 --> 01:33:18,200 stuff it's not there are no good ideas 2461 01:33:21,550 --> 01:33:20,480 come out of the the rational analytical 2462 01:33:25,900 --> 01:33:21,560 brain it's all coming out of the 2463 01:33:28,120 --> 01:33:25,910 subconscious mind and I even have the 2464 01:33:31,859 --> 01:33:28,130 top neurologists in the United States as 2465 01:33:34,120 --> 01:33:31,869 Nancy Andreasen who's working on 2466 01:33:35,739 --> 01:33:34,130 creativity and she says there's a strong 2467 01:33:37,629 --> 01:33:35,749 relationship between creativity and the 2468 01:33:39,759 --> 01:33:37,639 unconscious processes that we think that 2469 01:33:41,410 --> 01:33:39,769 we think we think up that we're 2470 01:33:43,319 --> 01:33:41,420 analyzing it we're rationalizing we're 2471 01:33:45,160 --> 01:33:43,329 coming to Clues you know it's it's all 2472 01:33:46,509 --> 01:33:45,170 tapping into this thing so whether 2473 01:33:47,770 --> 01:33:46,519 you're doing meditation or whether 2474 01:33:49,089 --> 01:33:47,780 you're doing psychic phenomena 2475 01:33:50,770 --> 01:33:49,099 we like to parse all the stuff we say 2476 01:33:53,830 --> 01:33:50,780 for example experiences will tell me 2477 01:33:55,660 --> 01:33:53,840 okay I'm getting my messages like 42% of 2478 01:34:00,359 --> 01:33:55,670 all experiences claimed to get downloads 2479 01:34:06,669 --> 01:34:04,209 you know inventions 42% are getting 2480 01:34:08,739 --> 01:34:06,679 downloads and they'll say we're getting 2481 01:34:11,709 --> 01:34:08,749 real material don't lump us with the 2482 01:34:13,000 --> 01:34:11,719 Chandler's we're not Chandler's they're 2483 01:34:14,469 --> 01:34:13,010 all they're all full of it they're none 2484 01:34:16,390 --> 01:34:14,479 of those guys are real and I say it's 2485 01:34:17,919 --> 01:34:16,400 all the same thing it's like tuning into 2486 01:34:20,890 --> 01:34:17,929 a radio station if you're doing 2487 01:34:23,529 --> 01:34:20,900 mediumship you're tuning into 106.3 if 2488 01:34:25,299 --> 01:34:23,539 you're doing aliens they're on 1:06 2489 01:34:29,169 --> 01:34:25,309 point for you're you're shutting down 2490 01:34:31,049 --> 01:34:29,179 the left conscious brain that that is 2491 01:34:33,370 --> 01:34:31,059 breaks the filter that stops you from 2492 01:34:35,709 --> 01:34:33,380 connecting with non-local consciousness 2493 01:34:36,910 --> 01:34:35,719 and you're tapping into this kind of 2494 01:34:38,259 --> 01:34:36,920 stuff so all that kind of stuff 2495 01:34:41,350 --> 01:34:38,269 there's our giving an example of 2496 01:34:44,770 --> 01:34:41,360 synchronicity how is the guy who's 2497 01:34:48,910 --> 01:34:44,780 abducted out of Las Vegas and he tells 2498 01:34:50,319 --> 01:34:48,920 the story of waking up one morning with 2499 01:34:52,299 --> 01:34:50,329 this song in his head and he's a 2500 01:34:53,979 --> 01:34:52,309 musician and he wakes up with a song in 2501 01:34:57,489 --> 01:34:53,989 his head and then he goes to the truck 2502 01:34:59,589 --> 01:34:57,499 and he plays and he turns on the radio 2503 01:35:01,689 --> 01:34:59,599 and this song is playing and he's going 2504 01:35:04,810 --> 01:35:01,699 like wow like what's the chances of that 2505 01:35:08,169 --> 01:35:04,820 and I say well you believe in time and 2506 01:35:09,399 --> 01:35:08,179 space and there is no time in space if 2507 01:35:13,089 --> 01:35:09,409 you look at I in Stein and stuff like 2508 01:35:15,819 --> 01:35:13,099 that if you go to some of the latest 2509 01:35:17,319 --> 01:35:15,829 theories this whole idea that there is 2510 01:35:19,449 --> 01:35:17,329 no time and space that everything is 2511 01:35:22,120 --> 01:35:19,459 lumped on top of each other and that 2512 01:35:24,899 --> 01:35:22,130 that that's time and space are illusions 2513 01:35:28,540 --> 01:35:24,909 then you start to see that the 2514 01:35:30,160 --> 01:35:28,550 unconscious mind can tap in and it knows 2515 01:35:32,979 --> 01:35:30,170 what the first song is going to be and 2516 01:35:35,620 --> 01:35:32,989 so it puts it into it transfers it over 2517 01:35:37,449 --> 01:35:35,630 through the dream process into the 2518 01:35:39,729 --> 01:35:37,459 person's mind and then the person goes 2519 01:35:41,890 --> 01:35:39,739 in and plays it and it plays and he 2520 01:35:43,270 --> 01:35:41,900 thinks well this is unusual because they 2521 01:35:45,270 --> 01:35:43,280 believing that there's there's actual 2522 01:35:47,129 --> 01:35:45,280 time that that that time moves 2523 01:35:49,500 --> 01:35:47,139 a linear clock and therefore this can't 2524 01:35:51,299 --> 01:35:49,510 happen but if you don't have time and if 2525 01:35:53,010 --> 01:35:51,309 the unconscious has the access to all 2526 01:35:54,569 --> 01:35:53,020 this material and just transfers over to 2527 01:35:56,310 --> 01:35:54,579 the conscious mind the conscious mind 2528 01:35:58,649 --> 01:35:56,320 gets confused because it has a different 2529 01:36:00,479 --> 01:35:58,659 impression so you have to have this this 2530 01:36:01,950 --> 01:36:00,489 whole idea of getting the fundamentals 2531 01:36:03,990 --> 01:36:01,960 of the universe and that's where I think 2532 01:36:06,120 --> 01:36:04,000 we're going wrong is that we're doing 2533 01:36:07,709 --> 01:36:06,130 equations to understand the UFO 2534 01:36:09,149 --> 01:36:07,719 phenomena and we've got all the wrong 2535 01:36:10,500 --> 01:36:09,159 numbers to start and you're never going 2536 01:36:13,439 --> 01:36:10,510 to get the right answer unless you've 2537 01:36:15,540 --> 01:36:13,449 got the the right answers the right 2538 01:36:17,010 --> 01:36:15,550 numbers to put into the equation and so 2539 01:36:19,890 --> 01:36:17,020 when it comes to the consciousness thing 2540 01:36:21,750 --> 01:36:19,900 when it comes down to reality if you 2541 01:36:23,399 --> 01:36:21,760 look at the modern quantum physics stuff 2542 01:36:26,399 --> 01:36:23,409 that nobody wants to talk about this 2543 01:36:29,399 --> 01:36:26,409 idea this this whole idea about the 2544 01:36:33,109 --> 01:36:29,409 entangled particle experiment that the 2545 01:36:37,260 --> 01:36:33,119 the major guys that came up with this 2546 01:36:39,060 --> 01:36:37,270 Niels Bohr and Heisenberg and all these 2547 01:36:41,459 --> 01:36:39,070 guys basically came to this conclusion 2548 01:36:43,140 --> 01:36:41,469 that consciousness is primary that 2549 01:36:44,609 --> 01:36:43,150 consciousness that a particle does not 2550 01:36:46,500 --> 01:36:44,619 take a position in time in space until 2551 01:36:48,629 --> 01:36:46,510 there's an observer and this whole idea 2552 01:36:50,879 --> 01:36:48,639 that consciousness is primary so if you 2553 01:36:51,930 --> 01:36:50,889 have consciousness being primary then 2554 01:36:54,799 --> 01:36:51,940 you start looking at this thing with 2555 01:36:57,390 --> 01:36:54,809 time and space is consciousness local 2556 01:37:00,060 --> 01:36:57,400 where you know we have separate objects 2557 01:37:02,910 --> 01:37:00,070 and moves linearly or is it non-local 2558 01:37:04,290 --> 01:37:02,920 and if you listen to Russell Targ who 2559 01:37:06,959 --> 01:37:04,300 was the guy who ran the remote viewing 2560 01:37:09,720 --> 01:37:06,969 program with he'll put off for the CIA 2561 01:37:10,709 --> 01:37:09,730 for years and years and years every time 2562 01:37:13,649 --> 01:37:10,719 he's interviewed he tells the story 2563 01:37:17,189 --> 01:37:13,659 about consciousness about remote viewing 2564 01:37:19,799 --> 01:37:17,199 it is as easy to remote view in the past 2565 01:37:22,500 --> 01:37:19,809 and the future as it is in the present 2566 01:37:24,240 --> 01:37:22,510 it is as easy to Remote View on the 2567 01:37:25,680 --> 01:37:24,250 other side of the planet as it is in the 2568 01:37:27,870 --> 01:37:25,690 next room which means that consciousness 2569 01:37:30,510 --> 01:37:27,880 is not governed by time and space so 2570 01:37:32,430 --> 01:37:30,520 when you get that down properly then you 2571 01:37:34,740 --> 01:37:32,440 start to understand how do they get here 2572 01:37:36,569 --> 01:37:34,750 because you're not going to be flying 2573 01:37:38,279 --> 01:37:36,579 through time and space or through 2574 01:37:39,990 --> 01:37:38,289 through you know taking ten thousand 2575 01:37:42,990 --> 01:37:40,000 years that's the major argument by the 2576 01:37:45,270 --> 01:37:43,000 skeptic so you you can't get here from 2577 01:37:47,129 --> 01:37:45,280 there the distances are too are too vast 2578 01:37:48,689 --> 01:37:47,139 you can't go past the speed of light all 2579 01:37:50,430 --> 01:37:48,699 that kind of nonsense but if you look at 2580 01:37:53,430 --> 01:37:50,440 the entangled particle experiment and 2581 01:37:54,450 --> 01:37:53,440 you see that these particles one is on 2582 01:37:55,950 --> 01:37:54,460 one side of the universe one's on the 2583 01:37:57,959 --> 01:37:55,960 other side of the universe and if you 2584 01:37:58,379 --> 01:37:57,969 effect one the other one knows what 2585 01:37:59,070 --> 01:37:58,389 you're doing 2586 01:38:00,750 --> 01:37:59,080 which means 2587 01:38:02,520 --> 01:38:00,760 it's conscious it's aware of what you're 2588 01:38:05,160 --> 01:38:02,530 doing so you have this consciousness as 2589 01:38:07,380 --> 01:38:05,170 this particle level and if particles can 2590 01:38:11,790 --> 01:38:07,390 transfer messages through time and space 2591 01:38:13,350 --> 01:38:11,800 with no no time then maybe the aliens 2592 01:38:14,460 --> 01:38:13,360 just understand how this works and 2593 01:38:16,020 --> 01:38:14,470 they're moving through and when you 2594 01:38:18,030 --> 01:38:16,030 start talking to experiences that's what 2595 01:38:20,550 --> 01:38:18,040 they're told that this is how it works 2596 01:38:22,980 --> 01:38:20,560 and then you get the even more part an 2597 01:38:24,450 --> 01:38:22,990 important part is that we make the 2598 01:38:26,060 --> 01:38:24,460 mistake that's the physical world and 2599 01:38:29,310 --> 01:38:26,070 when you go back to this original 2600 01:38:31,080 --> 01:38:29,320 quantum thing with the entangled 2601 01:38:32,790 --> 01:38:31,090 particle thing or with the dual slit 2602 01:38:35,160 --> 01:38:32,800 experiment where the consciousness 2603 01:38:37,470 --> 01:38:35,170 breaks down the wave you have this whole 2604 01:38:38,970 --> 01:38:37,480 idea that a particle does not take a 2605 01:38:40,590 --> 01:38:38,980 position in time and space until there's 2606 01:38:42,900 --> 01:38:40,600 observer you move the remove the 2607 01:38:44,220 --> 01:38:42,910 observer it goes back to a wait for the 2608 01:38:49,890 --> 01:38:44,230 observer on it goes back to a particle 2609 01:38:51,450 --> 01:38:49,900 so so particles are governed by 2610 01:38:53,010 --> 01:38:51,460 consciousness and then when you start 2611 01:38:54,690 --> 01:38:53,020 talking to experiences and and I had 2612 01:38:56,460 --> 01:38:54,700 Chris Bledsoe last night tell the story 2613 01:38:57,690 --> 01:38:56,470 he's one of 36 people that I've taught 2614 01:39:00,270 --> 01:38:57,700 well I've talked to them all but I've 2615 01:39:02,040 --> 01:39:00,280 I've got documented from and there's 2616 01:39:04,430 --> 01:39:02,050 maybe six or seven when I've actually 2617 01:39:07,110 --> 01:39:04,440 talked to when they say we know now that 2618 01:39:09,300 --> 01:39:07,120 14% of all experiences according to the 2619 01:39:12,300 --> 01:39:09,310 free survey say that they've flown the 2620 01:39:14,760 --> 01:39:12,310 craft and I've known this since 2013 2621 01:39:16,530 --> 01:39:14,770 when this woman floored me in Phoenix 2622 01:39:18,510 --> 01:39:16,540 Arizona and told she was flying the 2623 01:39:20,460 --> 01:39:18,520 craft and I said you are what I couldn't 2624 01:39:22,770 --> 01:39:20,470 I couldn't believe it I've been 37 years 2625 01:39:25,260 --> 01:39:22,780 and I said you're flying the craft you 2626 01:39:27,270 --> 01:39:25,270 kidding me said yeah her piloting the 2627 01:39:28,710 --> 01:39:27,280 car learning to fly yeah 14% of all 2628 01:39:30,330 --> 01:39:28,720 experiences according to the free survey 2629 01:39:33,090 --> 01:39:30,340 have flown to flow into craft never 2630 01:39:34,590 --> 01:39:33,100 heard well well ain't so I'd never heard 2631 01:39:36,420 --> 01:39:34,600 neither and when she told me this I said 2632 01:39:37,890 --> 01:39:36,430 you flew the craft 2633 01:39:39,720 --> 01:39:37,900 I couldn't first they'd set this meeting 2634 01:39:40,260 --> 01:39:39,730 up with me I done a consciousness 2635 01:39:41,730 --> 01:39:40,270 lecture 2636 01:39:45,600 --> 01:39:41,740 Nate set me and said you're gonna talk 2637 01:39:46,950 --> 01:39:45,610 to Pam and I said yeah okay and I 2638 01:39:48,780 --> 01:39:46,960 thought why I'd agreed to talk to her or 2639 01:39:50,010 --> 01:39:48,790 whatever so she comes in a big secret 2640 01:39:51,840 --> 01:39:50,020 meeting whatever she's telling me about 2641 01:39:53,280 --> 01:39:51,850 remote viewing and I know you've heard 2642 01:39:54,570 --> 01:39:53,290 all this stuff and I'm Nick ignoring her 2643 01:39:55,950 --> 01:39:54,580 you know I'm not really paying attention 2644 01:39:57,330 --> 01:39:55,960 and when she said this thing about she's 2645 01:39:59,430 --> 01:39:57,340 flown the craft that way and she's in 2646 01:40:01,770 --> 01:39:59,440 her 70s I said he'd flown to craft and 2647 01:40:04,590 --> 01:40:01,780 and she said yeah I've flown to craft I 2648 01:40:06,570 --> 01:40:04,600 said how do you fly a craft and she said 2649 01:40:08,100 --> 01:40:06,580 you do it with your mind as soon as she 2650 01:40:10,650 --> 01:40:08,110 said that it clicked why they set me up 2651 01:40:12,030 --> 01:40:10,660 with this woman and now suit so I have 2652 01:40:13,020 --> 01:40:12,040 all these people who suddenly say 2653 01:40:16,649 --> 01:40:13,030 they're flying the craft 2654 01:40:18,450 --> 01:40:16,659 women so when when they say oh I have an 2655 01:40:20,520 --> 01:40:18,460 idea I'm flying the craft or whatever I 2656 01:40:21,390 --> 01:40:20,530 all stop them and say hang on I don't 2657 01:40:23,310 --> 01:40:21,400 ask you a question 2658 01:40:25,979 --> 01:40:23,320 how do you fly the craft nobody 2659 01:40:27,240 --> 01:40:25,989 absolutely it's hundred percent nobody 2660 01:40:28,410 --> 01:40:27,250 has said anything different they all 2661 01:40:31,080 --> 01:40:28,420 said the same thing you do with your 2662 01:40:33,379 --> 01:40:31,090 mind so when Chris Bludso's on last 2663 01:40:35,669 --> 01:40:33,389 night I knew I talked to number times I 2664 01:40:37,560 --> 01:40:35,679 actually put on tape a couple of times I 2665 01:40:39,180 --> 01:40:37,570 said Chris you've flown the craft you 2666 01:40:42,120 --> 01:40:39,190 flew it you said I flew on a number of 2667 01:40:43,439 --> 01:40:42,130 times I said okay tell us how do you fly 2668 01:40:44,819 --> 01:40:43,449 crap what actually happens and he goes 2669 01:40:46,649 --> 01:40:44,829 through the whole procedure start and 2670 01:40:48,479 --> 01:40:46,659 getting on the craft exactly this 2671 01:40:50,310 --> 01:40:48,489 beehive type thing you put your hand on 2672 01:40:51,750 --> 01:40:50,320 it same Suzy Hansen from New Zealand 2673 01:40:53,430 --> 01:40:51,760 what tell the same story put your hand 2674 01:40:54,779 --> 01:40:53,440 on this thing and then suddenly 2675 01:40:56,640 --> 01:40:54,789 everything starts to move and there's 2676 01:40:57,720 --> 01:40:56,650 these hexagons moving in the wall and 2677 01:40:59,339 --> 01:40:57,730 stuff like that and suddenly the thing 2678 01:41:01,439 --> 01:40:59,349 opens up and you can see glass and and 2679 01:41:05,760 --> 01:41:01,449 you're actually using your mind to fly 2680 01:41:08,729 --> 01:41:05,770 the craft or what's-her-name the 2681 01:41:10,470 --> 01:41:08,739 assistant for Kathy Martin she talks 2682 01:41:13,290 --> 01:41:10,480 about this where she's actually talking 2683 01:41:15,270 --> 01:41:13,300 yeah Denise toner Denise toner talks 2684 01:41:18,930 --> 01:41:15,280 about the fact that she's talking to the 2685 01:41:21,450 --> 01:41:18,940 to the to the the actual mind of the 2686 01:41:23,430 --> 01:41:21,460 machine that she's under under the the 2687 01:41:25,319 --> 01:41:23,440 in the craft industry how it works and 2688 01:41:26,790 --> 01:41:25,329 that the the engine type thing is 2689 01:41:28,859 --> 01:41:26,800 actually alive and it's communicating 2690 01:41:30,720 --> 01:41:28,869 with other with other crafts and she 2691 01:41:32,790 --> 01:41:30,730 felt sorry for it cuz it was it was and 2692 01:41:34,439 --> 01:41:32,800 this whole idea that the craft is alive 2693 01:41:36,540 --> 01:41:34,449 and so when you come down to the 2694 01:41:38,310 --> 01:41:36,550 disclosure thing this is maybe would it 2695 01:41:40,290 --> 01:41:38,320 be about is this a good nothing - its 2696 01:41:41,700 --> 01:41:40,300 physical this is not like you gotta pull 2697 01:41:44,160 --> 01:41:41,710 this little engine out of that little 2698 01:41:46,020 --> 01:41:44,170 free and free energy engine and stick it 2699 01:41:47,819 --> 01:41:46,030 in your SUV and drive around for the 2700 01:41:49,229 --> 01:41:47,829 next 30 years for nothing it's got 2701 01:41:50,700 --> 01:41:49,239 nothing to do it the free energy it's 2702 01:41:52,770 --> 01:41:50,710 got to do it this whole thing that this 2703 01:41:54,689 --> 01:41:52,780 is mind aspect to this whole thing and 2704 01:41:56,490 --> 01:41:54,699 so you even take a look back at the 2705 01:41:58,319 --> 01:41:56,500 Roswell thing we used to think that 2706 01:42:01,919 --> 01:41:58,329 there was four dead aliens at Roswell 2707 01:42:03,629 --> 01:42:01,929 we now a lot of witnesses are saying no 2708 01:42:07,049 --> 01:42:03,639 no it was three dead in one live alien 2709 01:42:10,290 --> 01:42:07,059 so assuming that this is right take a 2710 01:42:12,660 --> 01:42:10,300 look back and say review you're 2711 01:42:14,850 --> 01:42:12,670 recovering the Roswell crash and there's 2712 01:42:16,560 --> 01:42:14,860 this live alien and that the people who 2713 01:42:18,330 --> 01:42:16,570 have claimed to have the live alien are 2714 01:42:21,060 --> 01:42:18,340 all telling the same story that the 2715 01:42:22,979 --> 01:42:21,070 thing was talking in their heads so if 2716 01:42:24,959 --> 01:42:22,989 you're in 1947 and it's the you know 2717 01:42:26,399 --> 01:42:24,969 after the war and it's all military and 2718 01:42:26,910 --> 01:42:26,409 stuff like that you suddenly get an 2719 01:42:28,979 --> 01:42:26,920 alien 2720 01:42:30,630 --> 01:42:28,989 talking in your head you go like wow 2721 01:42:32,250 --> 01:42:30,640 forget about what the craft is built up 2722 01:42:34,350 --> 01:42:32,260 like wow man if we could develop this 2723 01:42:38,490 --> 01:42:34,360 technology and that and I give you the 2724 01:42:40,620 --> 01:42:38,500 proof of how we support for this I have 2725 01:42:42,450 --> 01:42:40,630 just download experience in 2012 which 2726 01:42:43,919 --> 01:42:42,460 won't get into one of the items that was 2727 01:42:45,510 --> 01:42:43,929 downloaded into my head I had all the 2728 01:42:47,160 --> 01:42:45,520 material but all it did was put all the 2729 01:42:48,380 --> 01:42:47,170 material together it was like here's how 2730 01:42:50,729 --> 01:42:48,390 it fits together and it came with 2731 01:42:52,740 --> 01:42:50,739 absolute certainty you don't have to 2732 01:42:54,390 --> 01:42:52,750 check this you do not and anybody who's 2733 01:42:55,919 --> 01:42:54,400 had these downloads and I've got Nobel 2734 01:42:57,330 --> 01:42:55,929 Prize winners who talked about this it 2735 01:42:58,530 --> 01:42:57,340 comes with this absolute certainty you 2736 01:43:00,720 --> 01:42:58,540 don't have to check it this is for real 2737 01:43:03,660 --> 01:43:00,730 and that usually is is is real and it's 2738 01:43:05,640 --> 01:43:03,670 the it's always real so anyway one of 2739 01:43:07,560 --> 01:43:05,650 the things came into my head I chased 2740 01:43:11,280 --> 01:43:07,570 the Canadian government and the famous 2741 01:43:13,140 --> 01:43:11,290 top-secret memo from 1950 the Canadians 2742 01:43:15,060 --> 01:43:13,150 go to the Americans Wilbur Smith goes 2743 01:43:16,470 --> 01:43:15,070 through classified channels which is 2744 01:43:18,510 --> 01:43:16,480 important he's not he's going to 2745 01:43:20,220 --> 01:43:18,520 classify channels is the top secret memo 2746 01:43:21,780 --> 01:43:20,230 Canadian government does not deny this 2747 01:43:24,330 --> 01:43:21,790 document existence they do not deny 2748 01:43:25,410 --> 01:43:24,340 anything about it he says to the 2749 01:43:27,390 --> 01:43:25,420 Americans what's going on with flying 2750 01:43:29,280 --> 01:43:27,400 saucers to classified channel the 2751 01:43:31,229 --> 01:43:29,290 information comes back flying saucers 2752 01:43:32,490 --> 01:43:31,239 exist its most highly classes subject 2753 01:43:35,520 --> 01:43:32,500 United States it's of tremendous 2754 01:43:36,870 --> 01:43:35,530 significance to the Americans small 2755 01:43:38,610 --> 01:43:36,880 group headed by dr. banner of our Bush 2756 01:43:39,180 --> 01:43:38,620 running the thing and that what popped 2757 01:43:40,830 --> 01:43:39,190 in my head 2758 01:43:42,780 --> 01:43:40,840 during this download was the very next 2759 01:43:44,520 --> 01:43:42,790 line we were also told by American 2760 01:43:46,919 --> 01:43:44,530 officials that other things might be 2761 01:43:49,439 --> 01:43:46,929 associated with the flying saucers such 2762 01:43:50,640 --> 01:43:49,449 as mental phenomena the Americans aren't 2763 01:43:52,470 --> 01:43:50,650 doing very well because they've said if 2764 01:43:54,419 --> 01:43:52,480 we're working on the program they're 2765 01:43:56,580 --> 01:43:54,429 willing to exchange credentials and talk 2766 01:44:00,630 --> 01:43:56,590 to us the key to that is this is 2767 01:44:02,310 --> 01:44:00,640 November of 1950 you're Joe damps would 2768 01:44:03,900 --> 01:44:02,320 not come forward until a couple days 2769 01:44:06,419 --> 01:44:03,910 after the detonation of the hydrogen 2770 01:44:07,979 --> 01:44:06,429 bomb nobody was talking to aliens Betty 2771 01:44:10,890 --> 01:44:07,989 and Barney Hills would not become public 2772 01:44:13,620 --> 01:44:10,900 till the mid-1960s nobody there was no 2773 01:44:16,290 --> 01:44:13,630 reports in 1950 of people talking to 2774 01:44:18,930 --> 01:44:16,300 aliens let alone aliens being telepathic 2775 01:44:21,660 --> 01:44:18,940 so the question is how did the how did 2776 01:44:23,370 --> 01:44:21,670 the Americans know to tell the Canadians 2777 01:44:26,459 --> 01:44:23,380 that mental phenomena was part of the 2778 01:44:29,700 --> 01:44:26,469 UFO phenomena back in 1950 cuz they 2779 01:44:31,860 --> 01:44:29,710 recovered alive alien at Roswell and a 2780 01:44:33,990 --> 01:44:31,870 new mental phenomena was a key part of 2781 01:44:35,220 --> 01:44:34,000 this this whole phenomenon so you can 2782 01:44:37,140 --> 01:44:35,230 see it right at the beginning they've 2783 01:44:39,000 --> 01:44:37,150 known right from the beginning and that 2784 01:44:40,739 --> 01:44:39,010 may be one of the key things that's 2785 01:44:42,540 --> 01:44:40,749 causing the security 2786 01:44:45,169 --> 01:44:42,550 behind this thing is this mental 2787 01:44:47,489 --> 01:44:45,179 phenomena and the fact that it's all 2788 01:44:49,229 --> 01:44:47,499 controlled and I even show an experiment 2789 01:44:50,790 --> 01:44:49,239 when I lecture on this I say if you 2790 01:44:52,200 --> 01:44:50,800 don't think that this is important and 2791 01:44:54,419 --> 01:44:52,210 then they're not doing this take a look 2792 01:44:57,509 --> 01:44:54,429 at this and I show this video all you 2793 01:45:00,029 --> 01:44:57,519 have to do is Google search f/22 and rat 2794 01:45:01,589 --> 01:45:00,039 and this experiment will pop up and this 2795 01:45:03,450 --> 01:45:01,599 came from following a UFO case I won't 2796 01:45:05,819 --> 01:45:03,460 get into it but it ends up at this lab 2797 01:45:07,410 --> 01:45:05,829 in in University of Southern Florida and 2798 01:45:08,790 --> 01:45:07,420 they're running this experiment and what 2799 01:45:10,859 --> 01:45:08,800 they do is they take we have a hundred 2800 01:45:13,799 --> 01:45:10,869 billion neurons in our brain 2801 01:45:15,930 --> 01:45:13,809 they take twenty twenty thousand neurons 2802 01:45:18,750 --> 01:45:15,940 from a rat brain it put it in a little 2803 01:45:22,529 --> 01:45:18,760 tiny petri dish that has wires attached 2804 01:45:24,899 --> 01:45:22,539 to the bottom of it and they they wire 2805 01:45:28,319 --> 01:45:24,909 it into an f-22 simulator and I did a 2806 01:45:30,689 --> 01:45:28,329 lecture I actually had George church 2807 01:45:32,160 --> 01:45:30,699 fire in one of my lectures and I always 2808 01:45:34,680 --> 01:45:32,170 asked how many people can fly an f-22 2809 01:45:36,930 --> 01:45:34,690 simulator nobody nobody can ever nope no 2810 01:45:38,700 --> 01:45:36,940 no has ever gone I said to George is it 2811 01:45:40,529 --> 01:45:38,710 hard to fly an f-22 CMM you said yeah 2812 01:45:42,450 --> 01:45:40,539 it'd be hard to fly it and have 22 2813 01:45:44,069 --> 01:45:42,460 similar so they take this these twenty 2814 01:45:45,569 --> 01:45:44,079 thousand yards to put the wires in there 2815 01:45:46,919 --> 01:45:45,579 and what they do is when the when they 2816 01:45:49,169 --> 01:45:46,929 when the nose of the plane goes down 2817 01:45:52,049 --> 01:45:49,179 they send a high-frequency signal to the 2818 01:45:53,669 --> 01:45:52,059 to these neurons and the neurons send a 2819 01:45:55,469 --> 01:45:53,679 signal back and what they do is they 2820 01:45:57,600 --> 01:45:55,479 leave it for three days and and on this 2821 01:45:59,129 --> 01:45:57,610 video you'll see it shows and all the 2822 01:46:01,709 --> 01:45:59,139 neurons aren't talking there's nothing 2823 01:46:03,209 --> 01:46:01,719 happening and after one day they start 2824 01:46:04,560 --> 01:46:03,219 to talk two days they were talking and 2825 01:46:05,879 --> 01:46:04,570 after three days it's like a brain 2826 01:46:07,529 --> 01:46:05,889 there's all these signals in the brain 2827 01:46:10,290 --> 01:46:07,539 is all these neurons are talking with 2828 01:46:12,359 --> 01:46:10,300 each other and they control it then from 2829 01:46:14,459 --> 01:46:12,369 side to side they control it and so this 2830 01:46:16,410 --> 01:46:14,469 this twenty thousand neurons of a rat 2831 01:46:18,450 --> 01:46:16,420 brain is flying the f-22 simulator and 2832 01:46:19,709 --> 01:46:18,460 then they change the weather you see on 2833 01:46:22,169 --> 01:46:19,719 the video they changed the weather and 2834 01:46:23,430 --> 01:46:22,179 it's like hi you know thunderstorms and 2835 01:46:25,319 --> 01:46:23,440 wind and stuff like this and it 2836 01:46:27,660 --> 01:46:25,329 continues to fly the simulator and that 2837 01:46:31,109 --> 01:46:27,670 comes down on the symbiotic thing can 2838 01:46:32,640 --> 01:46:31,119 you get a pilot to fly a craft a plane 2839 01:46:35,250 --> 01:46:32,650 with your mind they're working on it 2840 01:46:36,390 --> 01:46:35,260 this is white world technology 2004 you 2841 01:46:40,080 --> 01:46:36,400 can imagine what they're doing in the 2842 01:46:42,600 --> 01:46:40,090 black world Wow okay one of the 2843 01:46:44,850 --> 01:46:42,610 questions I wanted someone on the 2844 01:46:46,919 --> 01:46:44,860 message board wanted to know if you and 2845 01:46:48,419 --> 01:46:46,929 just real quickly on this with you if we 2846 01:46:49,799 --> 01:46:48,429 would because I want to shift gears here 2847 01:46:54,000 --> 01:46:49,809 for ya in just a minute 2848 01:46:54,750 --> 01:46:54,010 but did you vet these people that claim 2849 01:47:02,160 --> 01:46:54,760 they 2850 01:47:04,290 --> 01:47:02,170 absolutely I mean how do you met them I 2851 01:47:06,149 --> 01:47:04,300 mean as soon as I said as soon as they 2852 01:47:07,709 --> 01:47:06,159 said and they'd be telling the story 2853 01:47:11,040 --> 01:47:07,719 inhibited Oh I flew the craft man that's 2854 01:47:12,509 --> 01:47:11,050 a stop heidi flag craft i mean you said 2855 01:47:14,700 --> 01:47:12,519 you've never heard of this before 2856 01:47:16,890 --> 01:47:14,710 great right I had never heard of it in 2857 01:47:19,770 --> 01:47:16,900 2013 so who's gonna make up oh I used my 2858 01:47:21,540 --> 01:47:19,780 mind who's gonna make that up it's the 2859 01:47:23,549 --> 01:47:21,550 last thing you think about and as I said 2860 01:47:26,189 --> 01:47:23,559 a hundred percent not ninety percent 2861 01:47:28,410 --> 01:47:26,199 hundred percent of people all tell the 2862 01:47:29,609 --> 01:47:28,420 same thing that they'll talk about this 2863 01:47:30,870 --> 01:47:29,619 fact that they're they're using your 2864 01:47:32,759 --> 01:47:30,880 mind to fly the ground and that the 2865 01:47:34,379 --> 01:47:32,769 crafts alive and and the other thing is 2866 01:47:36,870 --> 01:47:34,389 you if you take a look and I asked the 2867 01:47:39,029 --> 01:47:36,880 the the free people because they're 2868 01:47:40,890 --> 01:47:39,039 going into stage 3 and stage 4 I said 2869 01:47:43,140 --> 01:47:40,900 you've got to ask these are important 2870 01:47:44,819 --> 01:47:43,150 this important question these 14 percent 2871 01:47:46,350 --> 01:47:44,829 to claim they've flown the craft that's 2872 01:47:47,850 --> 01:47:46,360 the question you gotta ask them you can 2873 01:47:49,950 --> 01:47:47,860 ask them about how'd you fly the craft 2874 01:47:52,109 --> 01:47:49,960 and see if you have this 100 percent 2875 01:47:53,669 --> 01:47:52,119 thing because it's it's hundreds of 2876 01:47:56,220 --> 01:47:53,679 people that they're talking to that are 2877 01:47:57,509 --> 01:47:56,230 that are making this claim and you know 2878 01:47:59,279 --> 01:47:57,519 it's like why would you even claim 2879 01:48:00,660 --> 01:47:59,289 you're flying the craft I mean because 2880 01:48:07,049 --> 01:48:00,670 and then the other one is I'll give you 2881 01:48:10,109 --> 01:48:07,059 a quick quick example the singer he 2882 01:48:12,750 --> 01:48:10,119 became a Muslim I shoot cats Venus Cat 2883 01:48:13,979 --> 01:48:12,760 Stevens Cat Stevens claims he was 2884 01:48:15,689 --> 01:48:13,989 abducted no doubt about he's on a 2885 01:48:17,040 --> 01:48:15,699 rooftop in London he said they came they 2886 01:48:18,779 --> 01:48:17,050 sucked him up into the craft and and 2887 01:48:22,049 --> 01:48:18,789 they become Muslim didn't really talk 2888 01:48:24,029 --> 01:48:22,059 about it anymore he does two songs on 2889 01:48:25,379 --> 01:48:24,039 his abduction experience one is called 2890 01:48:29,220 --> 01:48:25,389 longboats the other one is called 2891 01:48:32,370 --> 01:48:29,230 freezing steel he said I was on the ship 2892 01:48:34,830 --> 01:48:32,380 the ship of freezing steel the ship 2893 01:48:36,899 --> 01:48:34,840 without the guiding wheel it was written 2894 01:48:38,459 --> 01:48:36,909 1970 and that indicates there is no 2895 01:48:41,100 --> 01:48:38,469 guiding wheel they're flying it with 2896 01:48:43,830 --> 01:48:41,110 their mind and so this is the critical 2897 01:48:45,930 --> 01:48:43,840 thing is for the free people to nail 2898 01:48:47,009 --> 01:48:45,940 this thing down the same as you know we 2899 01:48:48,270 --> 01:48:47,019 well there's all sorts of things they 2900 01:48:50,609 --> 01:48:48,280 have to nail down that I've sort of 2901 01:48:52,979 --> 01:48:50,619 discovered that these weird things that 2902 01:48:54,000 --> 01:48:52,989 really tell us what's going on well how 2903 01:48:56,520 --> 01:48:54,010 do you have some other questions so go 2904 01:49:00,060 --> 01:48:56,530 ahead oh yeah no I wanted to know what 2905 01:49:02,609 --> 01:49:00,070 your new revelation regarding one of the 2906 01:49:07,410 --> 01:49:02,619 ariel school kids because I know you 2907 01:49:08,550 --> 01:49:07,420 sent that to me I want okay yeah because 2908 01:49:11,070 --> 01:49:08,560 we only have about just 2909 01:49:14,190 --> 01:49:11,080 we have about seven minutes or so okay 2910 01:49:15,750 --> 01:49:14,200 this is a girl trim yeah Emily time I 2911 01:49:18,690 --> 01:49:15,760 met her Emily trim she's going to speak 2912 01:49:22,440 --> 01:49:18,700 at UFO Congress she spoke she came 2913 01:49:24,810 --> 01:49:22,450 public in Brantford in 2015 I happened 2914 01:49:26,640 --> 01:49:24,820 to be in the lecture she's talking about 2915 01:49:28,470 --> 01:49:26,650 and I always when I could do the 2916 01:49:29,610 --> 01:49:28,480 consciousness thing I know it's not 2917 01:49:31,560 --> 01:49:29,620 consciousness I mean these people just 2918 01:49:33,600 --> 01:49:31,570 think that they're getting messages from 2919 01:49:35,520 --> 01:49:33,610 aliens and it's not really true we know 2920 01:49:37,440 --> 01:49:35,530 and we know and they just believe so 2921 01:49:39,600 --> 01:49:37,450 they're doing this thing that and and so 2922 01:49:41,010 --> 01:49:39,610 you have these 62 kids and I in my 2923 01:49:42,720 --> 01:49:41,020 lectures I'll bring it up and I'll say 2924 01:49:43,890 --> 01:49:42,730 look at this cake and these downloads 2925 01:49:45,330 --> 01:49:43,900 these kids were all getting he's down 2926 01:49:46,320 --> 01:49:45,340 there talking about coming out of the 2927 01:49:46,980 --> 01:49:46,330 aliens eyes and they're getting these 2928 01:49:48,870 --> 01:49:46,990 messages 2929 01:49:51,480 --> 01:49:48,880 so Emily trim comes forward and she says 2930 01:49:54,060 --> 01:49:51,490 she and this other girl are on the edge 2931 01:49:55,800 --> 01:49:54,070 they're within range of touching these 2932 01:49:57,540 --> 01:49:55,810 aliens when the aliens appear they're 2933 01:49:59,490 --> 01:49:57,550 walking these logs on the edge of the on 2934 01:50:01,650 --> 01:49:59,500 the playground and she tells a story 2935 01:50:03,360 --> 01:50:01,660 that the alien was there and she was 2936 01:50:05,490 --> 01:50:03,370 looking into the aliens eyes and she got 2937 01:50:07,050 --> 01:50:05,500 this download and all this stuff was 2938 01:50:09,000 --> 01:50:07,060 going into her head and the other girl 2939 01:50:10,830 --> 01:50:09,010 got hers was environmental and the other 2940 01:50:12,420 --> 01:50:10,840 girls was no hers was technology and 2941 01:50:14,550 --> 01:50:12,430 other girls was environmental these 2942 01:50:17,280 --> 01:50:14,560 messages and what she described is 2943 01:50:19,440 --> 01:50:17,290 something that only I sort of picked up 2944 01:50:20,910 --> 01:50:19,450 on is she's talking about the and I'm 2945 01:50:22,530 --> 01:50:20,920 having an interview with her handler 2946 01:50:24,330 --> 01:50:22,540 they just didn't want me to talking to 2947 01:50:25,800 --> 01:50:24,340 her but her handler is this guy out of 2948 01:50:27,540 --> 01:50:25,810 Montreal and I'm gonna talk to him 2949 01:50:29,580 --> 01:50:27,550 tomorrow I'm doing this interview and so 2950 01:50:32,040 --> 01:50:29,590 the question is how fast were these 2951 01:50:33,840 --> 01:50:32,050 images going in in her head and that is 2952 01:50:36,120 --> 01:50:33,850 because there's a technique that is 2953 01:50:37,560 --> 01:50:36,130 called a Bengston healing method it is 2954 01:50:40,380 --> 01:50:37,570 the one that claims to be the Cadillac 2955 01:50:42,180 --> 01:50:40,390 to heal cancer I won't get into it but 2956 01:50:43,260 --> 01:50:42,190 what it what they use and I was actually 2957 01:50:44,700 --> 01:50:43,270 trained on this because I'm so 2958 01:50:46,290 --> 01:50:44,710 interested in this whole thing I was 2959 01:50:48,480 --> 01:50:46,300 trained it's called rapid image cycling 2960 01:50:50,880 --> 01:50:48,490 it's the ability to cycle thousands of 2961 01:50:52,710 --> 01:50:50,890 images in your in your head every second 2962 01:50:54,660 --> 01:50:52,720 and then they teach how to do this in 2963 01:50:56,070 --> 01:50:54,670 these images so anyway she's talking 2964 01:50:58,500 --> 01:50:56,080 about this she's talking rapid image 2965 01:51:00,690 --> 01:50:58,510 cycling the key is that the person who 2966 01:51:02,790 --> 01:51:00,700 taught the rapid image cycling to 2967 01:51:07,050 --> 01:51:02,800 Bengston who is now in charge of it was 2968 01:51:08,790 --> 01:51:07,060 a medium who later on claimed he was an 2969 01:51:10,530 --> 01:51:08,800 alien so that's the one connection so 2970 01:51:12,630 --> 01:51:10,540 this alien thing that he and and the 2971 01:51:13,770 --> 01:51:12,640 thing is it's like the flying the ship 2972 01:51:15,780 --> 01:51:13,780 with your mind like who would think 2973 01:51:17,760 --> 01:51:15,790 you're gonna cure cancer by flipping 2974 01:51:19,080 --> 01:51:17,770 thousands of images a second in your 2975 01:51:21,360 --> 01:51:19,090 head doesn't make any sense it's like 2976 01:51:22,129 --> 01:51:21,370 weird this come from so he tells a story 2977 01:51:24,859 --> 01:51:22,139 and then 2978 01:51:25,280 --> 01:51:24,869 when I hear Suzanne Hansen telling the 2979 01:51:29,660 --> 01:51:25,290 story 2980 01:51:30,919 --> 01:51:29,670 February 2010 and she doesn't know what 2981 01:51:33,169 --> 01:51:30,929 she's talking about I mean I hear this I 2982 01:51:35,899 --> 01:51:33,179 go wow and I contact her and she confer 2983 01:51:38,000 --> 01:51:35,909 confirms the story the aliens take her 2984 01:51:41,330 --> 01:51:38,010 and about 250 people to an underground 2985 01:51:43,760 --> 01:51:41,340 facility but like an underground lecture 2986 01:51:45,709 --> 01:51:43,770 theater and they're all in this room and 2987 01:51:47,419 --> 01:51:45,719 the alien comes out and she says the 2988 01:51:49,359 --> 01:51:47,429 images start on the screen and this is 2989 01:51:53,660 --> 01:51:49,369 environmental images and it's flash 2990 01:51:55,970 --> 01:51:53,670 flash flash flash flash flash and she 2991 01:51:57,770 --> 01:51:55,980 says and when it was going she said 2992 01:51:59,419 --> 01:51:57,780 there was emotion people were crying all 2993 01:52:01,189 --> 01:51:59,429 these images were flashing on the screen 2994 01:52:03,410 --> 01:52:01,199 and she said they were going hundreds of 2995 01:52:04,970 --> 01:52:03,420 times a second and they had taught us 2996 01:52:06,410 --> 01:52:04,980 how to do it 2997 01:52:07,700 --> 01:52:06,420 that's the Bankston method which was 2998 01:52:09,169 --> 01:52:07,710 taught by this guy who claimed to be an 2999 01:52:11,030 --> 01:52:09,179 alien and then sudden you have this 3000 01:52:12,740 --> 01:52:11,040 Emily trim coming forward and she's got 3001 01:52:14,840 --> 01:52:12,750 these images flashing in her head so my 3002 01:52:16,459 --> 01:52:14,850 question now is how fast were the 3003 01:52:18,229 --> 01:52:16,469 flashing was that a hundred images a 3004 01:52:20,479 --> 01:52:18,239 second which does make any sense unless 3005 01:52:22,250 --> 01:52:20,489 you know how they're trained you say no 3006 01:52:23,930 --> 01:52:22,260 and you can't flash 100 images a second 3007 01:52:25,520 --> 01:52:23,940 in your head but Emily trim is telling 3008 01:52:27,890 --> 01:52:25,530 the story and the other one that she 3009 01:52:29,540 --> 01:52:27,900 tells that's interesting is that she 3010 01:52:31,850 --> 01:52:29,550 does this thing and I've done a lot of 3011 01:52:33,530 --> 01:52:31,860 this is this download thing that a lot 3012 01:52:35,510 --> 01:52:33,540 of experiences when they have their 3013 01:52:37,640 --> 01:52:35,520 encounter Chris bludsoe is a prime 3014 01:52:39,140 --> 01:52:37,650 example they suddenly holy cow I got a 3015 01:52:41,180 --> 01:52:39,150 paint crisp line she was never paint in 3016 01:52:43,280 --> 01:52:41,190 his life he's got to go to the the arts 3017 01:52:45,290 --> 01:52:43,290 thing he's gotta buy canvases and paints 3018 01:52:47,479 --> 01:52:45,300 and stuff and I have a whole list of 3019 01:52:49,310 --> 01:52:47,489 experiences who suddenly are able to do 3020 01:52:51,109 --> 01:52:49,320 art that you cannot believe as soon as 3021 01:52:53,060 --> 01:52:51,119 they have their wakening UFO experience 3022 01:52:56,180 --> 01:52:53,070 Emily trim is one she's got these these 3023 01:52:59,030 --> 01:52:56,190 massive beautiful paintings that are all 3024 01:53:01,070 --> 01:52:59,040 related to her experience and she she 3025 01:53:02,629 --> 01:53:01,080 has this ability and it's almost like 3026 01:53:04,580 --> 01:53:02,639 they're given this ability to do this 3027 01:53:06,770 --> 01:53:04,590 painting or the allagash guys if you 3028 01:53:08,780 --> 01:53:06,780 hear stone they're artists I just 3029 01:53:11,570 --> 01:53:08,790 mention that yeah and one became a 3030 01:53:13,010 --> 01:53:11,580 mathematician yeah but but but they're 3031 01:53:15,560 --> 01:53:13,020 doing art with the mathematics involved 3032 01:53:17,180 --> 01:53:15,570 there art all changed as if they're 3033 01:53:18,979 --> 01:53:17,190 being influenced and and this is sort of 3034 01:53:20,660 --> 01:53:18,989 like whatever they're doing with the art 3035 01:53:22,070 --> 01:53:20,670 thing but there's so many of these 3036 01:53:24,080 --> 01:53:22,080 people you can't believe how many people 3037 01:53:27,109 --> 01:53:24,090 have these claims were they you know a 3038 01:53:29,149 --> 01:53:27,119 caretaker or janitor out of Ontario and 3039 01:53:30,859 --> 01:53:29,159 some of his stuff I couldn't believe it 3040 01:53:32,300 --> 01:53:30,869 he never pained before his life and it 3041 01:53:33,709 --> 01:53:32,310 looks like a like a professional artist 3042 01:53:35,060 --> 01:53:33,719 it was like unbelievable and I said 3043 01:53:35,870 --> 01:53:35,070 really and this only happened a couple 3044 01:53:37,370 --> 01:53:35,880 years ago he has 3045 01:53:39,050 --> 01:53:37,380 awakening experience and something he 3046 01:53:41,000 --> 01:53:39,060 can't stop painting he's painting all 3047 01:53:42,350 --> 01:53:41,010 the time and so these are the kind of 3048 01:53:43,820 --> 01:53:42,360 things that I think that are very 3049 01:53:45,620 --> 01:53:43,830 interesting that we should be looking at 3050 01:53:47,320 --> 01:53:45,630 to see what's going on because there's a 3051 01:53:49,100 --> 01:53:47,330 lot of these people running around and 3052 01:53:53,180 --> 01:53:49,110 we'll see where it goes 3053 01:53:54,650 --> 01:53:53,190 ah yeah let's see we just had one more 3054 01:53:58,000 --> 01:53:54,660 question I think we'll probably fill up 3055 01:54:01,370 --> 01:53:58,010 the rest of the time and could you tell 3056 01:54:03,680 --> 01:54:01,380 about the deathbed confessions of two 3057 01:54:05,420 --> 01:54:03,690 Canadian officials and what they claim 3058 01:54:08,120 --> 01:54:05,430 they were shown by American officials 3059 01:54:09,710 --> 01:54:08,130 related to UFOs well no there's only the 3060 01:54:12,620 --> 01:54:09,720 one I mentioned the one this is the one 3061 01:54:15,200 --> 01:54:12,630 the the emergency management guy who 3062 01:54:16,490 --> 01:54:15,210 told hell you're the story the guy who's 3063 01:54:19,160 --> 01:54:16,500 dying of ALS but the other one was 3064 01:54:21,110 --> 01:54:19,170 Wilbur Smith and I talked to his son and 3065 01:54:23,810 --> 01:54:21,120 Wilbur Smith why ran the Canadian 3066 01:54:25,100 --> 01:54:23,820 government program from 1950 1954 he was 3067 01:54:26,930 --> 01:54:25,110 the official no matter what anybody's 3068 01:54:28,550 --> 01:54:26,940 got to say there we have records to 3069 01:54:30,950 --> 01:54:28,560 prove that he was the official running 3070 01:54:33,140 --> 01:54:30,960 the program he wasn't reporting to 3071 01:54:35,300 --> 01:54:33,150 anybody or you know taking orders from 3072 01:54:37,190 --> 01:54:35,310 anybody he was running the show and he 3073 01:54:38,570 --> 01:54:37,200 was a contactee we never mentioned it 3074 01:54:40,970 --> 01:54:38,580 for a number of years he was a contact 3075 01:54:45,170 --> 01:54:40,980 he at the end of his life his son said 3076 01:54:46,670 --> 01:54:45,180 to him dad did you see the craft and his 3077 01:54:48,680 --> 01:54:46,680 son told me I've got you taped the 3078 01:54:50,780 --> 01:54:48,690 interview with him he said yeah he was 3079 01:54:52,370 --> 01:54:50,790 his father's dying of lower bowel cancer 3080 01:54:53,900 --> 01:54:52,380 he knew his dying he was near the end 3081 01:54:54,500 --> 01:54:53,910 and he said there's nothing they can do 3082 01:54:56,570 --> 01:54:54,510 to me anymore 3083 01:54:59,150 --> 01:54:56,580 yes I saw the craft I was shown the 3084 01:55:01,220 --> 01:54:59,160 craft and I was shown the bodies and I 3085 01:55:04,670 --> 01:55:01,230 immediately said to Jim his son I said 3086 01:55:07,010 --> 01:55:04,680 were they grace because there's no gray 3087 01:55:10,130 --> 01:55:07,020 mention back in that time and he said no 3088 01:55:12,860 --> 01:55:10,140 they were aliens described at the time 3089 01:55:15,080 --> 01:55:12,870 people like us that you would accept 3090 01:55:17,480 --> 01:55:15,090 smaller but looking like us so Wilbur 3091 01:55:19,100 --> 01:55:17,490 Smith confirmed to his son and on his 3092 01:55:20,960 --> 01:55:19,110 deathbed that yes he had actually seen 3093 01:55:23,090 --> 01:55:20,970 the craft outside of Washington DC and 3094 01:55:24,320 --> 01:55:23,100 he was shown the bodies by the Americans 3095 01:55:25,790 --> 01:55:24,330 and he was a Canadian government 3096 01:55:27,320 --> 01:55:25,800 official that was that was running it 3097 01:55:29,180 --> 01:55:27,330 until he claimed there was a flying 3098 01:55:31,160 --> 01:55:29,190 saucer came over to Washington or over 3099 01:55:32,780 --> 01:55:31,170 Ottawa which is nation's capital and 3100 01:55:34,250 --> 01:55:32,790 they shut the program down and that was 3101 01:55:37,520 --> 01:55:34,260 the end of the program Wow 3102 01:55:40,100 --> 01:55:37,530 okay one last question here and why is 3103 01:55:44,660 --> 01:55:40,110 it that you don't follow UFO sighting 3104 01:55:47,570 --> 01:55:44,670 reports because we've done it for 70 3105 01:55:49,370 --> 01:55:47,580 years and if you take a look where are 3106 01:55:50,390 --> 01:55:49,380 we everybody says 3107 01:55:52,850 --> 01:55:50,400 it's a big mystery we don't know what's 3108 01:55:55,520 --> 01:55:52,860 going on it's not a physical thing you 3109 01:55:57,649 --> 01:55:55,530 you cannot if you I say if we try to 3110 01:55:59,300 --> 01:55:57,659 measure it we're never gonna figure it 3111 01:56:01,550 --> 01:55:59,310 out you you've got to go to the next 3112 01:56:03,260 --> 01:56:01,560 step if you were if you had 3,000 3113 01:56:04,459 --> 01:56:03,270 members like me five members if you had 3114 01:56:07,520 --> 01:56:04,469 the CIA 3115 01:56:10,220 --> 01:56:07,530 if you said okay instead of a UFO or 3116 01:56:11,830 --> 01:56:10,230 aliens it's a Russian plane if I say to 3117 01:56:13,580 --> 01:56:11,840 you okay Martin what are we gonna do 3118 01:56:16,430 --> 01:56:13,590 everybody go stand out in their backyard 3119 01:56:18,979 --> 01:56:16,440 for for a week and see what they see or 3120 01:56:20,479 --> 01:56:18,989 are we gonna listen to the experiencers 3121 01:56:23,780 --> 01:56:20,489 the people who claim to have worked 3122 01:56:25,250 --> 01:56:23,790 inside the Russian space program claim 3123 01:56:27,560 --> 01:56:25,260 to being inside the thing now maybe 3124 01:56:32,720 --> 01:56:27,570 they're lying but don't you think it's 3125 01:56:34,669 --> 01:56:32,730 more what a better source of our time 3126 01:56:35,959 --> 01:56:34,679 and energy to talk to people who 3127 01:56:38,959 --> 01:56:35,969 actually been apart because what can you 3128 01:56:40,520 --> 01:56:38,969 tell by you know what you see what these 3129 01:56:42,169 --> 01:56:40,530 style of thousands of people will see in 3130 01:56:44,000 --> 01:56:42,179 their yard they'll report this color 3131 01:56:46,040 --> 01:56:44,010 that this object and you can't tell 3132 01:56:48,080 --> 01:56:46,050 anything by stuff flying around the sky 3133 01:56:49,820 --> 01:56:48,090 it could always be something else that 3134 01:56:51,020 --> 01:56:49,830 you're never gonna nail it down the only 3135 01:56:53,540 --> 01:56:51,030 way you're gonna nail down is to get the 3136 01:56:55,280 --> 01:56:53,550 government to disclose or to talk to the 3137 01:56:57,379 --> 01:56:55,290 people who claim to have been inside the 3138 01:56:59,990 --> 01:56:57,389 ship that's right okay we are out of 3139 01:57:01,959 --> 01:57:00,000 time thanks so much I really do 3140 01:57:04,189 --> 01:57:01,969 appreciate it it was very interesting 3141 01:57:07,490 --> 01:57:04,199 well thank you for your interest I 3142 01:57:10,070 --> 01:57:07,500 appreciate your listening to my tales 3143 01:57:13,910 --> 01:57:10,080 yeah very good all right you take care 3144 01:57:15,590 --> 01:57:13,920 grant okay see you Martin thank you all 3145 01:57:18,919 --> 01:57:15,600 right everyone so thanks so much for 3146 01:57:22,310 --> 01:57:18,929 listening and next week we have Frank 3147 01:57:25,010 --> 01:57:22,320 Jacobs on he's put together a movie 3148 01:57:27,530 --> 01:57:25,020 called packing for Mars I think it'll be 3149 01:57:30,020 --> 01:57:27,540 an interesting show I want to thank a 3150 01:57:33,470 --> 01:57:30,030 few people our guests of course Brant 3151 01:57:36,439 --> 01:57:33,480 Cameron Alejandro Rojas however you say 3152 01:57:39,649 --> 01:57:36,449 that for the news I want to thank Carrie 3153 01:57:43,700 --> 01:57:39,659 Lloyd Whitehouse for the music for the 3154 01:57:46,550 --> 01:57:43,710 show and I'm Peggy shunning for managing 3155 01:57:48,080 --> 01:57:46,560 the Facebook page and so that is going 3156 01:57:51,110 --> 01:57:48,090 to do it for the show this evening and